I cannot get Samsung Magician to recognize my Samsung EVO 850 as an SSD.

lepphd1

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Even though the SSD is recognized as a USB drive with no partitions (full 465 gb), the Magician does not show the Secure Erase as being available. In fact nothing in the program is available. If I try to use the migrations software it recognizes the C drive as the source drive but says to attach an SSD drive. In the Migration to start it shows SSD as being the source and target drives and that is as far as the program will proceed. I tried another cloning software program but my HD is 2tb and my SSD is 500GB. Cloning of the disk was not possible because of the size differences. The cloning program would not migrate the data per se but wanted to clone the entire drive. What should be done now???
 
Use Macrium Reflect. If it is just one big partition, and as long as the data is less than the size of the SSD you will be able to clone it.

Also the Secure Erase is only when a password is set for the SSD though the BIOS if your BIOS supports the HDD password correctly which most desktops don't.
 

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I don't recommend using Magician Software I heart a lot of bad things. Please use AOMEI Partition Assistant Pro and migrate your OS and it should be better.

I hope this helps please ask questions if you are confused.
 

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Hi lepphd1 ,

I had the same problem with Samsung 850 EVO SSD after checking the specs on Samsung 850 EVO SSD I had found this

Samsung 850 EVO SSD power requirement is 1.4A while USB3 only capabale of supplying max 0.9A. This means that your usb 3 to sata adapter can not supply enough power to run the hard drive. What you need to do is getting a USB 3 to sata adapter that has double USB cable so that it can supply 0.9 x 2 = 1.8A which is more than 1.4A requirement of Samsung 850 EVO. See the attached picture for the Double USB 3 to sata adapter that I used
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. Another way of doing this is connect your hard drive straight to the motherboard and using sata power cable to supply power for this hard drive.

Regards,

Tien
 


Might just be the Adapter he is using not so much that it is one cable. I have plenty of SATA to USB adapters that are designed for 2.5 inch drives and I NEVER have an issue with any of them getting enough power to power a HDD or SSD. I do have one that has issues and it does have a Y breakout cable but all my other ones, and i have 4 others, that are fine. Even though they are all USB 3.0 except for the Y one which is 2.0 I use them all in 3.0 and 2.0 slots with out issue. Only time I have an issue is when too many devices are plugged into the USB slots drawing up all the power. Removing them fixes that issue.

Some adapters are just better than others.
 

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I am almost certain that if you try to use your existing usb to sata adapter to this particular Samsung Evo 850 it will not work as it require at least 1.4A. Suprise enough its previous generation Evo 840 only draw 0.6A and HDD only draw 0.5A so a usb 3 to Sata will work with most of the Samsung SSD and HDD but not EVO 850. Check Samsung specs for 850 EVO Power requirement if you do not beleive me http://


 


Doesn't say exactly how many Amps it needs but yea if you take the 7.2 watts / 5 V's that it puts out you get the 1.44 amps. The thing is I HAVE ran 850 EVOs off USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 on single cabled adapters without issue. Quite a few of them recently since I have had clients upgrading to SSD's like crazy the past few months. A lot of them laptops giving the only options to use a USB port. I doubt it has more so to do with one cable more than it is the adapter itself IF that is even the case of what the issue is here. It could be something totally not even related to the Adapter or Power and until the OP replies back we won't know.
 

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Interesting that you could get it to work. I had a USB 3 adapters which comes with external power supply. When I try the Evo 850 without the external supply it would not regconise the drive. As soon as I plug in the external supply (2A) Windows instantly regconise the drive. Did you plug it a USB charge port ? because those port could supply power up to 1.5A ? see this quotes from Wikipedia
s with previous USB versions, USB 3.0 ports come in low-power and high-power variants, providing 150 mA and 900 mA respectively, while simultaneously transmitting data at SuperSpeed rates.[31] Additionally, there is a Battery Charging Specification (Version 1.2 – December 2010), which increases the power handling capability to 1.5 A but does not allow concurrent data transmission.[28] The Battery Charging Specification requires that the physical ports themselves be capable of handling 5 A of current[citation needed] but limits the maximum current drawn to 1.5 A.
As with previous USB versions, USB 3.0 ports come in low-power and high-power variants, providing 150 mA and 900 mA respectively, while simultaneously transmitting data at SuperSpeed rates.[31] Additionally, there is a Battery Charging Specification (Version 1.2 – December 2010), which increases the power handling capability to 1.5 A but does not allow concurrent data transmission.[28] The Battery Charging Specification requires that the physical ports themselves be capable of handling 5 A of current[citation needed] but limits the maximum current drawn to 1.5 A.


 
Nope nothing fancy about them. Normal USB 3.0 ports on Dell Optiplexs and even on USB 2.0 ports on older PC's.

I do, however, come across a PC that won't like a drive using one of the adapters but will work fine with another one even on 3.0 ports.

Very weird though, but yea he may need more power. MORE POWER SCOTTY!