Review my $700 Computer Build

RektArtificially · Oct 7, 2015

Supahos · Oct 7, 2015

Ssd completely unnessary but fun to have if you want to keep your budget find a cheaper case and it'll all fit

Rogue Leader · Oct 7, 2015

Supahos :

Unnecessary, Seriously? I don't agree at all, an SSD is the #1 thing that can make a huge difference in system performance, especially with whats probably a 5900RPM hard drive in there (link is to a cd drive), however 60 GB is too small, you really want to get yourself a 120GB. Windows 7 fully updated ends up needing nearly 50 GB.

Supahos · Oct 7, 2015

Every $ you spend on a ssd is a $ that could have been spent on things increase actual productivity or fps increase. Taking .1 seconds to load something vs .75 seconds makes less difference than $50 can on other hardware. I like my ssd, but I'd remove it before I'd take $75 (have a 250gb Samsung) from anywhere else

Rogue Leader · Oct 7, 2015

Supahos :

Again, seriously? Productivity is quite a bit slower when waiting for a 5900 rpm drive to grind up those files for you. Or waiting an eternity for windows to load, or a level to load in a game.

Its not a difference of .1 seconds vs .75 seconds. Its a difference of 10 seconds vs a minute or more.

Supahos · Oct 7, 2015

I have a 7200 rpm drive and there is literally nothing I have ever loaded that took a minute or even close to it. I'd rather have a better experience when something loads than it load fast and run choppy. But I forget how impatient some people are

Rogue Leader · Oct 7, 2015

Supahos :

You clearly do not understand what goes into overall system performance with Windows.

#1 Upgrade:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2019575/10-killer-pc-upgrades-for-less-than-250.html

http://lifehacker.com/5616023/are-solid-state-drives-worth-the-money

http://www.maximumpc.com/computer-upgrade-2014/#page-2

Note the overall windows performance that all these sites cite. Heck pose the question on this very forum and you will get an onslaught of agreement.

logainofhades · Oct 7, 2015

SSD's do 0, for gaming performance, and does 0 once a program is open and running in memory. They read and write faster than an HDD, and that is about it. Nice to have, yea, necessary, no.

Supahos · Oct 7, 2015

Pretty much my thoughts hades... Glad to see others who have been around a while feelnthe same as I do about them

Rogue Leader · Oct 7, 2015

logainofhades :

Really? I still don't agree. Because windows drivers, directx, and kernels and etc run off of it, or if you install the game to the SSD load times are reduced dramatically. So sure, once the game is up and running and you're in a level, probably makes no difference, but in EVERY other aspect including Windows use, or *gasp* not using it for gaming which the OP never said this was a 100% gaming machine, it makes a huge difference.

I will agree that no its not 100% necessary, but for the price you can get a 120 gb drive nowadays $50:
http://smile.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-SSDNow-SV300S37A-120G/dp/B00A1ZTZOG/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444233308&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=120gb+sssd

Its a no brainer.

Rogue Leader · Oct 7, 2015

Supahos :

Really because I joined this site this year that makes a difference in the validity of my opinion? You've only been here 1 year more than me.

For the record I have been working with computers for over 25 years and I was a registered member of this site back when it started, I just left it for a long while (obviously) if we are playing that game about whos opinions are valid.

logainofhades · Oct 7, 2015

The money spent, on an SSD, is better spent on graphics card, with such a low budget. I would not go with an AMD CPU either. 3yr old tech that is slower, and hotter.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 950 2GB Superclocked+ ACX 2.0 Video Card ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive ($13.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($93.75 @ OutletPC)
Total: $695.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-07 11:55 EDT-0400

Supahos · Oct 7, 2015

As we have both said the choice is a fast load and worse in app performance or aslower load and a better performance once inside. We know where you fall on that decision. Both are opinions both are valid.

Chris Droste · Oct 7, 2015

overall system performance, which included the loading of data TO memory, especially when it comes to games cache is a very big deal; keep in mind a very large, fast mechanical drive with a large cache buffer operates roughly around 110-150 IOps. a slower, old SSD, even a Samsung 830 is in the realm of 40,000 IOps. A modern SSD is usually hovering around 100,000 IOps. that is SEVERAL orders of magnitude faster than any mechanical drive. I'd get a cheap, big drive for storage and an inexpensive but reliable SSD brand (Crucial, Samsung) for OS, maybe some games; at $700 though you're pretty limited in viable options.

Supahos · Oct 7, 2015

If we were taking about a $900+ system I would agree a ssd is almost a must at $700 that money is taking away from what the system can do in a gaming environment, not merely adding vanity frames or a couple of setting maxxed out

Rogue Leader · Oct 7, 2015

Supahos :

A 120gb SSD is $50, dollar for dollar thats a smoking deal for the performance difference.

logainofhades · Oct 7, 2015

And practically useless with games being 20gb+. I wouldn't want anything less than a 250gb, if actually want to have more than 1 game on the drive.

Rogue Leader · Oct 7, 2015

logainofhades :

$70:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226679&cm_re=240gb_ssd-_-20-226-679-_-Product

If you need to go that route, still worth it.

Supahos · Oct 7, 2015

For that same $50 he can go from a 270 to a 380. If you want to game that'll make a bigger difference. It's what we all have to do, weigh what we consider important and make money decisions based on those values.

logainofhades · Oct 7, 2015

Rogue Leader :

Still better spent on GPU, on such a low budget system. Instead of a GTX 950, or even the 270 for that matter, you would have to settle on an R7 250x. With this low budget setup, get best GPU you can now, and add the SSD later.

Rogue Leader · Oct 7, 2015

Supahos :

Finally something we can agree on. Telling someone its completely unnecessary is not the correct answer.

Supahos · Oct 7, 2015

That was my point the whole time, at a $700 budget a ssd hurts gaming performance a lot. It's very expensive tonadd a better gpu later since your used one isn't with much, adding a ssd later is much cheaper and honestly there will probably be cheaper ssds out in 3 months than they are now

Supahos · Oct 7, 2015

A ssd allows you to run exactly zero things that not having one allows. This is the definition of unnessessary. A better anything else can make something unplayable run smooth

Rogue Leader · Oct 7, 2015

Supahos :

If that were true you would have offered up alternatives to his GPU.

Supahos :

True yes, but on a budget system with a slow hard drive, it makes a big performance difference.

You can continue to disagree with me, or you can let it go and agree to disagree, your choice.

Chris Droste · Oct 7, 2015

Here; just for the heck of it, I spec'd out what I'd do for $700::

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($111.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($67.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($42.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.90 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 380 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($183.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill SRM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.45 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($86.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $709.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-07 13:08 EDT-0400

and if that last $9 would break the bank Microcenter sells that CPU for $99:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/446260/Core_i3-4170_37_GHz_LGA_1150_Boxed_Processor

so for $700 I'd get BOTH a 250GB SSD, a decent storage drive, AND an R9 380.

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