Motherboard Upgrade has slowed my pc performance

Goiby5 · Oct 13, 2015

Hi guys,

I've just had the motherboard on my pc upgraded after it was found to have problems intermittent sata connections. It was upgraded to an MSI gaming 970. This is a system that I've had for about 8 months and I got a good feeling for how it did run.

Now, the general performance of the machine is sluggish, opening programs takes a little more time then before but most noticeable performance loss is framerate in games. Counter Strike: Global Offence runs at less at around 35fps. Diablo will run around 15fps. I dont feel these are graphically heavy and I ran diablo at around 50-60fps and CS:GO was easily 100-120fps.

I am running Windows 10. Chipset, GPU and Bios driver are all upto date. Me and two others having been pulling our hair out looking for the problem

Do you guys have any ideas? PC Spec is as below

main : MSI Gaming 970
cpu : AMD FX 8350 AM3+
ram : 32b HyperX ddr 3
vga : Radeon R9 270x
psu : cooler master 500w
hdd : 2x2TB Western Digital and 1 Kingston 500gb SSD

seeingeyegod · Oct 13, 2015

Have you scanned for malware lately? Installed any apps that are running in the background all the time?

Alec Mowat · Oct 13, 2015

hdd : 2x2TB Western Digital and 1 Kingston 500gb SSD

Is this a RAID?
Did you check the disk performance with anything? Did you check the disks for errors?

skitszo · Oct 13, 2015

Ccleaner-------------------------- do the 2 scans and repair and clean
Malwarebytes-------------------- full scan and go into custom scan and find the rootkit scan
NPE------------------------------- free stand alone root kit scan
Revo unistaller------------------- unistall programs and adware you see and run the scans after each install
auslogics------------------------- defrag and optimize
Hard disk sentinel--------------- run the short self test and rule out hard drive beginning to fail

start/run: type - msconfig enter or ok then goto start up tab then turn off every program you can run manually; then goto the services tab and check hide microsft then turn off services that can be done manually from said programs.

keep your hard drive under 75% capacity
keep drivers uptodate.... all of them

Alec Mowat · Oct 13, 2015

I noticed this too
vga : Radeon R9 270x
Uninstall Raptr if the driver forced it on there.

If you have an antivirus installed, let us know which one

gbb0330 · Oct 13, 2015

did you reinstall windows after the mobo upgrade?

Goiby5 :

Hi guys,

I've just had the motherboard on my pc upgraded after it was found to have problems intermittent sata connections. It was upgraded to an MSI gaming 970. This is a system that I've had for about 8 months and I got a good feeling for how it did run.

Now, the general performance of the machine is sluggish, opening programs takes a little more time then before but most noticeable performance loss is framerate in games. Counter Strike: Global Offence runs at less at around 35fps. Diablo will run around 15fps. I dont feel these are graphically heavy and I ran diablo at around 50-60fps and CS:GO was easily 100-120fps.

I am running Windows 10. Chipset, GPU and Bios driver are all upto date. Me and two others having been pulling our hair out looking for the problem

Do you guys have any ideas? PC Spec is as below

main : MSI Gaming 970
cpu : AMD FX 8350 AM3+
ram : 32b HyperX ddr 3
vga : Radeon R9 270x
psu : cooler master 500w
hdd : 2x2TB Western Digital and 1 Kingston 500gb SSD

Martell1977 · Oct 13, 2015

Did you reinstall Windows after the upgrade? You could be having driver issues from the old mobo. If you didn't reinstall Windows...I'm surprised it even booted up.

Goiby5 · Oct 13, 2015

Hi guys, Thanks for the quick response! I am currently running through skitzos suggestions but nothing has showed up as an issue so far.

Windows was not reinstalled after the mobo was fitted. I think that maybe the next port of call.

Im not going mad am I? The system being the spec it is should happily run those games at a decent rate right?!

Martell1977 · Oct 13, 2015

Goiby5 :

In my experience, I have never had a computer work properly after upgrading a mobo and not reinstalling Windows. I'd say that 90% of the time they wouldn't even start up. You are probably fighting with legacy drivers or driver remnants.

skitszo · Oct 13, 2015

I've been able to boot up some hardrives in a rig that wasn't native a few times. lol but that was just to do real quick.. not to actually run it for anything.

Goiby5 · Oct 19, 2015

Hi guys, sorry for the slow reply. I've been out of the country.

Thanks for all the help so far but alas, a fresh windows install has not solved the problems unfortunately. Any more ideas?

seeingeyegod · Oct 19, 2015

Power supply could be an issue, 500w is kind of marginal. Also, what speed is your RAM running at? It would help to run a benchmark like 3dmark11 to see if your CPU, memory, hard drives, or graphic system is the thing that is running slower than average.

Goiby5 · Oct 19, 2015

I have been using the 3Dmark demo to run some tests, here is a test ive just run and a comparison with similar components

The maximum turbo core clock is worrying!!

Goiby5 · Oct 19, 2015

Also my Memory speed is 1600Mhz DDR3

seeingeyegod · Oct 19, 2015

Interesting. Not sure I understand what I'm looking at. Who's machine is John Dory? Is Goiby yours? 4.715Ghz is not a normal turbo core clock for the 8350, it is supposed to be 4.2 unless that is some OC setting. The 1400Mhz turbo core is either being reported wrong or something is set wrong in your BIOS?

Goiby5 · Oct 19, 2015

Apologies, 'John Dory' was just a comparison system that had an AMD FX-8350 and a R9 270X GPU.

My GPU is a 4gb version and I have 32gb of RAM
The 'John Dory' system had a 2gb version and 16gb of RAM.

It does look like his has been clocked some aswell

GhislainG · Oct 19, 2015

At full load, does your CPU run at 4.0 GHz or at 1.4 GHz?

Tradesman1 · Oct 19, 2015

Do you have the latest BIOS and mobo drivers from the mobo website? Run a registry cleaner (Wise has a good free version)

Alec Mowat · Oct 19, 2015

Tradesman1 :

I would see what the reported speed in the BIOS is, reset the BIOS and update it if an update is available. I'd also check with any MSI programs that are available to see what it reports on RAM speed and CPU speed.

Goiby5 · Oct 20, 2015

Answer found.

Its was simply 'Slow mode' was on at the switch on the Mobo, lesson learnt. INSTALL YOUR OWN COMPONENTS!!!

Thanks for all the help guys, it kept me sane during this whole process.

GhislainG · Oct 20, 2015

I asked about the CPU frequency because the maximum turbo core frequency was wrong. Could you explain what 'Slow mode' was on at the switch on the Mobo means? That could help other members that run into the same issue.

Goiby5 · Oct 20, 2015

GhislainG :

On the MSI 970 Gaming motherboard there is a switch marked 'SLOW_MODE'

With this switched on, I believe it restricts the processor and slows the boot speed to allow more time to get into the BIOS.

Anyway, this was switched on and wasnt allowing the processor to use any more than 7x CPU multiplier (in my case 7x200Mhz base clock speed = 1.4Ghz Max Processing Speed) as soon as I flicked that switch, the processor could access 20x CPU multiplier (20x 200Mhz base clock speed = 4.0Ghz Max Processing Speed)

Hopefully that makes some sense?

Again, thanks for all the help!

GhislainG · Oct 20, 2015

Since it can help other members who run into that same issue, I selected your last post as the best solution.

seeingeyegod · Oct 20, 2015

interesting find!

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