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Ok guys, here's the thing: I've decided to build myself a pc for Christmas, and one of my dads colleagues builds pcs as well. We are friends, bit he built himself a pc six months ago for 600€ and I want to mach him, but I don't have as much money. My dad thinks that I should spend what I think is enough for my needs (light gaming, school work, films and internet browsing). I only have a 500€ budget, but I already have a case. He is not overclocking, but has an i3 and a gtx 960. Is there any way I can equal that for the same amount of money (only in gaming benchmarks)? I also want to overclock.
I don't play AAA titles, but play titanfall, PvZ garden warfare, warface, plantside 2, minecraft modpacks, trove and most importantly ROBOCRAFT.

I live in Italy

Tips from research I have already done:
Do not use pc part picker, it does not show a lot of the computer parts on amazon.it, I'm afraid you will have to look manually.
I would like to stay away from brands that are not well known.
I would like to overclock both CPU and GPU.

More info:
I am going to england to visit my family just after Christmas and I know some things are cheaper there, so anything you find in the UK is great, I will pick it up and bring it back with me.

I was thinking of this:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/nD2wsY
It's just something I put together, it would be in budget, let me learn to overclock and perform ok from what I hear.

I do not need OS or peripherals

Last thing (I promise):
According to my friend, I would do better waiting for the next gen of intel CPUs next year, but I disagree, because they will be out of my budget and it means waiting much longer. My current idea is to get a better GPU maybe next Christmas, as well as maybe a better CPU and mobo, and then get better storage, ram, cooling, psu, the year after.

Thanks for all your help.
 
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Cannot recommend an overclocking FX 6300 build, when you can get an i5 for a similar cost.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£142.15 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-E34 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£38.22 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£36.04 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.74 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 2GB Dual-X Video Card (£119.84)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (£37.00)
Total: £407.99...
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I definitely agree a pentium anniversary will do better than most I3s but if you want To overclock you would really want to get a higher quality motherboard. If you have some extra cash getting An R9 280x or gtx 960 would be wise. Make sure you get an aftermarket CPU colder as well if you want to overclock. Lastly adding an SSD is a good idea but not necessary
 
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for a small amount more you could go AMD fx6300 with asus m5a97 r2.0 board, hyper 212 evo cooler and overclock the hell out of it (running mine at 4.4ghz just by upping the multiplier and a bit on the vcore)
regardless of processor, i would personally swap out the gtx 950 form msi r9 270x gaming 2g to save around 40 euro. it overclocks well has a great quiet cooler. i had the 270x (4g version) and its does well at 1080p high on most games with some tweaking of the eye candy
 
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Your UK budget is $370 GBP right? And you want to beat your friend in games right?
Just put the money in the right place: Get the most powerful gpu you can and pair it w/ a cpu that can handle it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£88.13 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-DGS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£32.17 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Kingston Predator 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£28.08 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£20.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 380 4GB SOC Video Card (£169.98 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA 600W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£30.48 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £368.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-16 15:28 BST+0100
 
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There was a great offer on a r9 380 msi 2x armor edition for 120 pounds, but I didn't buy it because didnt know my pc specs yet. Check amazon.it, there are some good offers on gtx 960 for like 190 euro (aprox 130 pounds). I also heard that the gtx 960 overclocks better than the r9, so r9 wins at stock but I think a gtx might pull out ahead.
Another friend of mine owns a fx 4300, but his is overclocked to 4.4 as well but it kicks off insane heat and is not very good when compared to a pentium in gaming.
Please note, I plan to play less intensive games, that do not require a 4 core cpu.
 
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with a good aftermarket cooler it wont throw up too much heat. mine hits 52c at full load across all 6 cores. with a stock cooler its best to stay at stock speeds

if you only need a dual core then yes, the pentium is your best bet. bear in mind newer games *generally* require a quad core to play at decent settings, and a gpu is easier to upgrade and sell on than a cpu
 
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Yeah, just a side note:
The fx 4300 has 4 cores, I think you mean the fx 6300.
Newer games do require 4 cores, but for the less demanding ones there is a patch.
I will not be selling the parts in that sense, I will be building a media centre with my dad, so the gpu and cpu will go in there, when I upgrade, along with everything else as I go along. My dad will hopefully pay me for them though.
Also, an fx 6300 is outperformed in every game by i3s, the six cores are much more useful for multitasking, something I don't plan to do. The more efficient cores in intel CPUs are better in gaming (at least, so I've heard)
 
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A good i3 will cost slightly more than the fx 6300, but amd needs good OC motherboard and a aftermarket cooler, where as the i3 is compatible with super cheap mobo. This is not the reason I don't want it, i would prefer intel because amd line is becoming obsolete. Zen will hopefully change that, but it won't be the same socket, so yeah, also it will be beaten by the pentium in games I want to play. I know it is an awesome chip for productivity at its price, I have seen it in action, but I think intel takes the cake in gaming.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor (€117.82 @ Amazon Italia)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-DGS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€43.75 @ Amazon Italia)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€49.10 @ Amazon Italia)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€47.17 @ Amazon Italia)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card (€174.13 @ Amazon Italia)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€62.70 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €494.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-16 20:18 CEST+0200
 
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As I said in a previous post, about the most intensive game I will be playing is titanfall and maybe pvz garden warfare 2 when it comes out. That could pose a problem, but in most other older games (minecraft, robocraft, warface, trove, ecc...) it should be ok. Be aware I plan to overclock it to the max, because it only needs to last a year.
 
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If you plan to overclock it to the max where is the 3rd party cpu cooler?
Still if you want to beat your i3+GTX960 friends build i think the Pentium is indeed a weak link. Even oced.
Still think i3+R9380 is the best bet: Because your friend wont oc the gpu you will have all tools to kick his ***. :D
 
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I want to overclock gpu as well though :(
How well does the r9 overclock, because I heard somewhere that you can't raise the voltage, is this true? If so, how much of a performance boost would ocing give.
Also, have come up with some other possibilities:
Athlon 860k (I know, old and bad, but OC it, and it sounds like a resonably capable quad core, not i3 level, but close)
If I go i3, what gen? Old gen is slightly cheaper, but newer gen is more cost effective in long run, because I don't have to change mobo or ram to upgrade.
What do you think, any other ideas?
As far as aftermarket cooler goes, the pentium stock cooler is pretty good from what I hear, I would just throw in a 212 EVO later on when I have a bit of cash handy.
 
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But you also have to consider what runs in the background as well, such as antivirus programs, or whatever Windows decides it wants to do at any given moment.
 
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