Getting a new psu, seems fishy

Kristers Darznieks · Oct 16, 2015

So i currently have a * pc. I plan on buying a new one, but i notice i could buy the graphics card and add it to my current pc, that way i coul improve it while saving for the whole thing and then put it in the new pc. When i was about to order the card i noticed my cheap ass power supply wasn't up to par. I was searching for a power supply i could use, which would allow me to upgradde later down the line.

Found this

it's 80+, but it doesn't say bronze, silver etc so it seems kinda fishy

marketed at 400 total power and 440 peak

It has 30 amps on the 12v rail

It costs 40 euros, so it is 1 eur for every 10 wats, which people on the internet said was a safe bet

It has protection for multiple bad things

So i'm asking if:
Is this a quality psu?
Is it energy efficient?
Will it last for a while?
Will it allow for an upgrade?

Sapphire Thunder · Oct 16, 2015

80+ with nothing else on it, usually means it is "80+ White".
And that basically means that it MIGHT get a bit 80% efficiency at some point but it's not guaranteed.

Also, Enermax MaxPro is made by Channel Well Technology, the one who makes majority of the lowest of the low, Tier 4-5 PSU.
So I would skip that PSU.

R4lNM4N · Oct 16, 2015

Sapphire Thunder is correct. Also since you overwhelmed us with so many system specs, it's difficult to recommend what wattage you should be looking for.

Do this...

1) Use This calculator to find out what your minimum wattage is and remember that its just a minimum.

2) Reference this PSU Tier list from our community and find something quality with at least 200Watts above your minimum

Is this a quality psu? NO
Is it energy efficient? Depends, its only going to use what your components ask for (hopefully.) IE - A 500W supply doesn't constantly draw 500W
Will it last for a while? NO
Will it allow for an upgrade?Depends on upgrade

Also keep in mind that if you have a high powered component, (like a video card) it may require a minimum overall wattage or amperage on the 12v rail. Graphics cards also require 6 or 8 pin PCIE power connectors. What you will find in those top Tiers of our list will supply at least one of those connectors.

Keep in mind your potential want/need for upgrades IE - a second video card or special cooling

Kristers Darznieks · Oct 16, 2015

R4lNM4N :

http://datori.dataleks.lv/lv/item/psu-barosanas-bloki:63184
How about this?
The card im getting is very low end Gigabyte GT 730 2gb gddr5 and i wish to get an i3 in the future,8 gigs of ram etc. would this suffice?

R4lNM4N · Oct 16, 2015

Kristers Darznieks :

R4lNM4N :

http://datori.dataleks.lv/lv/item/psu-barosanas-bloki:63184
How about this?
The card im getting is very low end Gigabyte GT 730 2gb gddr5 and i wish to get an i3 in the future,8 gigs of ram etc. would this suffice?

I don't see this specific model on the Tier List but this company does have solid product models listed in the top tiers. The manufacturer website reports 80+ Bronze for 87% efficiency and a 3 year warranty. I would probably like to see a longer warranty than that but yea - it will suffice for now if you're on a budget.

Kristers Darznieks · Oct 16, 2015

R4lNM4N :

Kristers Darznieks :

I don't see this specific model on the Tier List but this company does have solid product models listed in the top tiers. The manufacturer website reports 80+ Bronze for 87% efficiency and a 3 year warranty. I would probably like to see a longer warranty than that but yea - it will suffice for now if you're on a budget.

I'm just starting to get even more lost, could you, please, tell me which one of these is better and why?
http://datori.dataleks.lv/lv/item/psu-barosanas-bloki:114068
http://datori.dataleks.lv/lv/item/psu-barosanas-bloki:63184

I really want to get more into computers, but everything i do asks for questions than it answers.

R4lNM4N · Oct 16, 2015

Kristers Darznieks :

R4lNM4N :

I'm just starting to get even more lost, could you, please, tell me which one of these is better and why?
http://datori.dataleks.lv/lv/item/psu-barosanas-bloki:114068
http://datori.dataleks.lv/lv/item/psu-barosanas-bloki:63184

I really want to get more into computers, but everything i do asks for questions than it answers.

Pretty much the same. I like that newegg.com has that first one because I can read the reviews (all excellent) also, it's 30 Watts higher for only 2 more Euro. Seasonic is also a more reliable manufacturer

Kristers Darznieks · Oct 17, 2015

R4lNM4N :

Kristers Darznieks :

R4lNM4N :

I'm just starting to get even more lost, could you, please, tell me which one of these is better and why?
http://datori.dataleks.lv/lv/item/psu-barosanas-bloki:114068
http://datori.dataleks.lv/lv/item/psu-barosanas-bloki:63184

I really want to get more into computers, but everything i do asks for questions than it answers.

Pretty much the same. I like that newegg.com has that first one because I can read the reviews (all excellent) also, it's 30 Watts higher for only 2 more Euro. Seasonic is also a more reliable manufacturer

How are those 2 psu's the same?

R4lNM4N · Oct 17, 2015

"Pretty much the same" means almost. The differences are listed above...The Seasonic is 30 watts higher and a more reliable manufacturer in my opinion. The price tag is only 2 Euro more. My professional choice would be the Seasonic - as would be the choice of most everyone else on these forums.

Kristers Darznieks · Oct 17, 2015

R4lNM4N :

I was talking about the seasonic psu and the one on newegg you listed

ko888 · Oct 17, 2015

Kristers Darznieks :

The Seasonic S12II 430B 430W on Newegg.com's website handles 100 ~ 240 VAC input voltage and has less maximum combined +12 Volt continuous current capacity (i.e. 30 Amps). It also has one 75-Watt 6-pin and one 150-Watt (6+2)-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors.

The Seasonic ECO-430 at dataleks.lv's website is 200 ~ 240 VAC input only. Its maximum combined +12 Volt continuous current capacity is 33 Amps. It has only one 150-Watt (6+2)-pin PCI Express supplementary power connector.

Total Power Supply Wattage is NOT the crucial factor in power supply selection!!! Sufficient Total Combined Continuous Power/Current Available on the +12V Rail(s) is the most critical factor.

Kristers Darznieks · Oct 17, 2015

ko888 :

Kristers Darznieks :

The Seasonic S12II 430B 430W on Newegg.com's website handles 100 ~ 240 VAC input voltage and has less maximum combined +12 Volt continuous current capacity (i.e. 30 Amps). It also has one 75-Watt 6-pin and one 150-Watt (6+2)-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors.

The Seasonic ECO-430 at dataleks.lv's website is 200 ~ 240 VAC input only. Its maximum combined +12 Volt continuous current capacity is 33 Amps. It has only one 150-Watt (6+2)-pin PCI Express supplementary power connector.

Total Power Supply Wattage is NOT the crucial factor in power supply selection!!! Sufficient Total Combined Continuous Power/Current Available on the +12V Rail(s) is the most critical factor.

So you recommend the psu. Going to oder it. Thanks!

Btw, is it haswell compatible? incase i want to upgrade to a haswell cpu.

ko888 · Oct 17, 2015

Kristers Darznieks :

No it's not Intel Haswell Ready. It's based on an old group regulated circuit design where one or more of the rails may go out of spec when the CPU is in C6/C7 low power state and trigger one of the PSU's protection circuits.

Kristers Darznieks · Oct 17, 2015

ko888 :

Can it run anything besides haswell or are there important info i should know?

Sapphire Thunder · Oct 17, 2015

Kristers Darznieks :

You can turn off the C6/C7 thing from BIOS for the Haswell cpus. Thus letting you use PSUs that do not have that compatibility. It will increase the power consumption very slightly.

So you can still get it, but you need to look about disabling those before you do.

Kristers Darznieks · Oct 17, 2015

Sapphire Thunder :

Do any safety concerns come with turning that feature off? There most be a reason it's there in the first place.

Sapphire Thunder · Oct 17, 2015

Kristers Darznieks :

It's a simple power-saving feature. It is meant to run the cpu at very low power consumption when it's not being used for anything demanding. Nothing else.

EDIT: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1720613/haswell-compatible-psu-haswell-states.html

Kristers Darznieks · Oct 17, 2015

Sapphire Thunder :

Is there anything else i should know before purchasing the psu?

Sapphire Thunder · Oct 17, 2015

Kristers Darznieks :

What PSU you would be choosing now?

The Be Quiet? Seasonic?

Either way, you don't really need to know anything else than what you now know.

Kristers Darznieks · Oct 17, 2015

Sapphire Thunder :

Seasonic, in that case a very big thanks!

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