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currf11

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I know nothing about computers but I am having issues and need parts upgrades to improve performance. Below are my current specs. My issue is, with games specifically with things like 80 players cluttered around in the same area, my fps drops from 40-60 avg in most terrain to around 14-16. Furthermore, there is a huge lag such as 4-5 second per movement and things like that.

Can someone please suggest what I can upgrade, what would be compatible? As someone who knows almost nothing about computers and I called a few outlets and nobody knows really.

Much appreciated for anyone with suggestion on how to fix things. (Budget generally anything that's compatible).

My specs:

HP ENVY 700-350z

Motherboard
•Manufacturer: MSI
•Manufacturer name: MS-7906
•HP name: Orchid

Processor
AMD A10-7800 Kaveri

Memory
•10 GB (1 x 8 GB + 1 x 2 GB) DDR3 PC3-12800

HardDrive
•1 TB 7200 rpm SATA 6G

ChipSet
•AMD A78 FCH

Expansion Slots
•PCI Express x16 (Gen 3.0): 1
•PCI Express x1 (Gen 2.0): 3
•PCI Express half-length mini card : 1

Power Supply
460Watts
 
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You don't have a dedicated graphics card?

I guess a pair of memory modules, and possibly quicker ones, would help.

But beyond that it's not all that powerful anyway, would had been better if you had 2x4 GB of RAM than 1x8 GB.

A somewhat decent graphics card would be better than the integrated graphics though. I wonder if maybe something like a GTX 750 Ti would be a better purchase than buying more RAM just to replace what you have to increase memory bandwidth. If someone was willing to purchase your 8 GB or possibly if you could get another 1x8 GB of the same kind and they would work as a pair. But your graphics card and your processor is more of an issue than having 8 (or 10) GB of RAM for speed otherwise.

I don't know what your...
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ComputerSecurityGuy

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How about this:
1: Add 1 or two modules of DDR3 PC3-12800 RAM, the iGPU will improve due to faster RAM if you get matching modules.
2: A discrete GPU will improve performance. Get an R7 250X to be able to lever your iGPU as well.
3: SSD- will provide a general performance boost.
Hope this helps!
 
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You have an integrated GPU with your CPU. For a simple fix buy a dedicated GPU to get an overhauled experience.
Your ram PC3-12800 means your bandwidth is 12.8gbits per second, and is 25.6gbits per second bandwidth if dual channel, didn't give enough description of your RAM for us to decide if RAM is a limitinf factor.

Also what games are you playing?
How much would you be willing to spend to improve your system, as I would recommend either a gtx 950, or gtx 960 seeming as you were playing on iGPU's before a dGPU would be luxurious for you :p
 
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First either get one 8GB stick of DDR3 PC3-12800 to match your current one. It should be of the same timings. Having two sticks that work in dual channel with give you a bit more performance and hey more memory is good. If you aren't sure just pickup a 16GB pair of new 8GB sticks like this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233538

and use that to replace your current setup. You can also just pickup two sets to max out at 32GB rather than worrying about picking up matching sticks latter. Also a dedicated video card will help such as this GTX 960 for around $180

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127844
 
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This was the memory description for the base model but I upgraded it to 10GB as stated above
•Memory slots: 4 DIMMs
•Maximum memory:
•32 GB (4 x 8 GB) (64-bit OS)

Other than that I don't see any other memory information.

I'm playing games like World/Warcraft and other moderate level games.

Further I did look at GTX higher models but my concern was that they would not be compatible with my current processor or mother board or something like that. I mean if I bought the GTX 960 wouldn't I have to upgrade the processor as well? And someone had told me that the lag/performance is more likely a processor issue but I don't know if I believe that.

I'm generally just looking for exact parts to upgrade like tell me what things I need to replace to fix things, I can't do it myself so I'd buy the parts and just have geeksquad install them basically.

As for budget, no limit, but If it goes too high I'd probably just be better off buying a new computer right? Maybe spend $500-$600 max is fine I don't care.

If I got the gtx 950 wouldn't it be incompatible with my processor/motherboard?

 
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You don't have a dedicated graphics card?

I guess a pair of memory modules, and possibly quicker ones, would help.

But beyond that it's not all that powerful anyway, would had been better if you had 2x4 GB of RAM than 1x8 GB.

A somewhat decent graphics card would be better than the integrated graphics though. I wonder if maybe something like a GTX 750 Ti would be a better purchase than buying more RAM just to replace what you have to increase memory bandwidth. If someone was willing to purchase your 8 GB or possibly if you could get another 1x8 GB of the same kind and they would work as a pair. But your graphics card and your processor is more of an issue than having 8 (or 10) GB of RAM for speed otherwise.

I don't know what your budget is either and don't want to suggest changing everything I guess. Unless you know someone who want your stuff. Like maybe sell it used and get a used i5 2500K + GTX 580 Ti machine or something?
 
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Johan Kryger Haglert

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You don't HAVE to upgrade the processor just because you get an GTX 960 (at that specific price-point I would get the R9 380 though), BUT chances are your processor power limit the performance in a bunch of games.

But that may be tolerable. Also even if it does the GTX 960 may let you use higher graphics settings which will at least allow the game too look more glorious while being too slow =P

In short over at Nvidia camp GT is desktop graphics cards and GTX is gaming graphics cards, the first number is the generation and for desktops there's no 800-series. Also the same GPU version/generation is used over TWO series / releases of graphics cards. So both 600 and 700 has Keplar GPUs for instance.

The two last digits mention relative performance and the Ti is a better / higher clocked version than the non-Ti one

So something like the 580Ti is 3 (because there's no 800 series) releases of graphics cards from Nvidia old, but the GPU is two generations old (Fermi, same as 400-series.), 80Ti is of course higher than 60 or 50 but one should take into account that it's also older.
 
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