How to upgrade Graphics card & comparision; R9 390 vs GTX 970.

eragi

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Re-posting my previous question once in better format.

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming.

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: GTX 760 2GB and 500W power supply.

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS: I7 4770 3.4 GHZ, 8 GB RAM ( will probly upgrade to 16.)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg or Amazon.

PARTS PREFERENCES: None, I am told the brand name doesn't matter as much as pricing.

OVERCLOCKING: Never done it. Is it safe?

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920 x 1080.


I've never upgraded my graphics card before and am thinking about doing so this XMAS. I am comparing the GTX 970 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ) and the R9 390 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... .)

My main questions are;

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What is the best buy? I am not very PC savvy but the r9's big advantage is teh 8GB of memory as far as I can see and the 970's main advantage is more performance (faster) for an amount of VRAM that might possibly, seemingly be more than I will need. However, I do mod out my Skyrim with 2k and 4k texture mods, and high grade ENB which mostly max out my 760, I of course don't use max settings. I would love to crank up the settings and use even higher grade ENBs. Would it be best to get the 4 GB VRAM with more performance or 8 GB VRAM with less?

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Will either work for my PC? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... . I read some tutorials and watched a video and all they ultimately say is you just unplug the old card and plug the new one in after powering the system down, unplugging it, grounding yourself, etc. I tried to unplug my graphics card to see what type of connectors I had but could not, it seems to be screwed in or something. Bear in mind, I am not very tech savvy. So when the graphics cards say they need a power connector 6 pin / 8 pin, when I finally manage to unplug my graphics card, on the plug in I unplug it should be either 6 or 8 pins, correct?

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Do I need to find out if my motherboard is compatible or anything else?

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My current power supply is apparently enough for the 970 but I will probably upgrade it eventually to unlock the full potential of whichever card i get. What would be optimal voltage to get which would make sure I never run short and is replacing your power supply a straight forward and simple thing to do?

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Finally, can anyone provide simple, basic steps of changing your graphics card and power supply in a nutshell.

Example; 1. Turn off and unplug power. 2. Ground yourself. 3. Unplug old card. 4. Plug in new card. 5. Update drivers. (Almost certainly wishful thinking, but hopefully it will be that simple.)

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On a side note, I think I recall someone saying you should remove all traces of your old graphics drivers before you exchange cards, is that true? I assume my Nvidia GeForce Experience wont update my MSI or EVGA card drivers, will the card come with a driver installation program or is there a free one that does all teh brandnames?

Greatly appreciate any info, I won't be changing my card for a few months, so late replies are fine. Thanks.
 
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1- Go for the amd 390 best price for the money, more vram and also sometimes cheaper then the 970. Also when AMD release driver they keep improving their performance on Nvidia always on top when they release it.
2- sorry the link you bring just bring me to homepage of newegg. Yes you video card must be two pin of 6 according to nvidia. So the best way to know if your power supply have the 8 pin connector for your next video card, name what company made it and model.
3- I positive that your motherboard is compatible with anything else, if support the gtx 760 of course will support r 390 or gtx 970.
4- Look for psu that support 80%+ on full load, with 600 ~ 700 watts you will be fine, also look your new psu have the 8 pin for your video card. Avoid label that people had bad experience, there are a lot of things you must consider that you want from your psu. But as you only request power anything 600+watts and 80%+ at full load will be fine.
5- This depend of the brand you go at the end, if you go Nvidia you not neccesary uninstall the drivers at less for me it will perfect to recognize when i swap from the same company. But if you switch to AMD. You need to uninstall the nvdia drivers, for that is simple, A. enter on windows, Download amd driver first not install, then look for nvidia control panel and uninstall the drivers, http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_13955.html, B. Just turn off your pc. C. Unplug your pc from any power source monitor and energy. D. Remove your video card (old one). E. Install your new one. F. plug again and boot up and install the amd driver that you download it.
6- Yes remove all the things that nvidia has like geforce experience only if you swap of company.
 

eragi

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Sorry, no clue why the links wont work. The products I am comparing are the "MSI Radeon R9 390 R9 390 GAMING 8G 8GB 512-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card" and "EVGA GeForce GTX 970 04G-P4-3978-KR 4GB FTW+ GAMING w/ACX 2.0+, Whisper Silent Cooling w/ Free Installed Backplate Graphics Card." You can past them into the newegg search to see.
 
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Changing your power supply and video card is relatively easy. Do a search at YouTube.com for videos about each, if you need them.

If your computer is a pre-built model, Dell, HP, Sony, ASUS, etc., then be sure to get a power supply that will fit you computer case - some power supplies can be too long for pre-built computers, but usually the width is similar for most and the holes for attaching it should line up in most cases.

Installation is rather simple. I installed a new one in my old 2009 model Dell 435T XPS in about 20 minutes. If you built your system and have a mid to full tower case then most any power supply will probably fit without issues and will still take about 20 minutes... With a new video card you need to make certain your new power supply is enough for it.

If the new card is an AMD replacing an NVidia one, or vice versa, before you remove the card and shut down go into the Device Manager and uninstall the graphic drivers, then shut down, unplug your computer, open it up and tap the power supply or any other metal area with your finger or hand to discharge any static electricity, then remove the old video card and install the new one. Startup, and when in the OS, go directly to the makers website for the most current drivers. Download and install them. However, if you are simply changing a video card from the SAME chipset maker, such as an NVidia model for another NVidia model, there is no need to uninstall the drivers. You can just remove the old card and install the new one - the new card will use the same drivers. I know this works for NVidia as I just did this a couple weeks ago, but I am assuming the same is true with AMD.

Overclocking is usually relatively safe these days with the software included with the video card. Personally, I don't bother overclocking my video card but will boost my cpu. All overclocking will get you is a few extra frames per second that you won't notice anyway during play. Besides, AMD cards tend to require more energy and run hotter than NVidia cards, and overclocking just makes that more of an issue.

Oh, from my understanding the GTX 970 and AMD R9 390 perform about the same at 1080p resolutions but the R9 390 is better at 1440p or higher. So, the R9 390 seems to be the better card but will pull more watts and produce more heat.
 
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