780ti vs 970

baizboyyy · Oct 23, 2015

What ones better? Bearing in mind I can get a 780 ti for $100 cheaper

andy_Man · Oct 23, 2015

r9 390 > both and has 8GB of ram. It's around the 970 price.

baizboyyy · Oct 23, 2015

andy_Man :

ok but is it significantly hotter than the others? My r9 270x cooks me alive in my room

sizzling · Oct 23, 2015

He is talking 780Ti, I'm fairly sure its stronger than the 390 up to the point the 3Gb VRAM becomes a problem.

If me id go 970. Even at 1080p games are starting to use more than 3gb VRAM.

KayH2O · Oct 23, 2015

VincentP :

The GTX 780 Ti is faster than the GTX 970.
The GTX 970 has more VRAM, but there is no game that currently requires more than this at 1920x1080.

While you find people claiming Battlefield 4 requires more than 3GB, this is only with mantle.
You can see the GTX 780 Ti with 3GB VRAM out-performing the AMD 4GB cards with mantle in this benchmark:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-970-maxwell,3941-8.html

Watch Dogs also requires at least 3GB of VRAM for ultra textures:
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/watch-dogs-graphics-performance-and-tweaking-guide#textures

There are also two new games coming out that recommend more than this, but they haven't been released yet so the material may not be correct:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/evil-within-gold-bethesda-horror,27765.html
http://www.overclock.net/t/1515461/ipon-shadow-of-mordor-6gb-of-vram-for-ultra-textures

Note that at 1080p, the value of these very high resolutions textures is questionable.

I think the GTX 780 Ti is a great card and more than enough for 1080p with a 60 Hz monitor.
While the GTX 970 is about 5% slower at stock, it has 4GB of VRAM and support for some new features.
Without over clocking yourself, most cards are factory over clocked anyway, and they can likely get more of an increase from the GTX 970 than the GTX 780 Ti because of the chip design.
Personally, I would choose the GTX 970.
The only older card I would consider in favour of this would be the GTX 780 6GB version as I think the extra VRAM makes it even more future proof.

andy_Man · Oct 23, 2015

The r9 390 almost matches the gtx 980 at 1080p, and matches/beats it at 1440p/4k. My overclocked r9 390 outscores gtx 980 in firestrike/firestrike ultra/firestrike extreme.

However, if heat is a big concern then you might want to go Nvidia Maxwell chip. (Gtx 970) Although i don't know how much the heat difference really is.

baizboyyy · Oct 23, 2015

sizzling :

ok thanks, just means I'll have to wait a bit to get one. Hopefully it'll be cheaper on black friday

andy_Man · Oct 23, 2015

KayH2O :

VincentP :

Skyrim, shadow of mordor, and GTA 5 are games just off the top of my head that can use more than 4gb of vram at 1080p. Although this would be with skyrim mods. Games being able to use more vram is quickly happening.

sizzling · Oct 23, 2015

I have a 780 and have hit the 3gb limit @ 1080p on Advanced Warefare and GTA V. It causes instant stuttering.

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