stutter in games with sapphire r9 390 nitro please help me fix it

Randa Ranoosh

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I built that pc
i7 6700k
ga z170x gaming 5
g650 seasonic
sapphire r9 390
I stress test the video card with valley benchmark
I get max 190fps min 39 fps
also I got some stutter while run the test
now
when I try to play the settlers 7 path to kingdom I get
stutter every 5 seconds for a half second
I'm running latest amd beta driver 15.10
how can I fix it please

the sound does not stutter
also just to note I have both intel and sound blaster x -fi drivers instaled
 

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here is a graph from afterburner while the stutter happen during play the settlers 7 path to kingdom
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this happens to me too on almost all games even Just Cause 3 and Wolfenstein, even games like Thief 4 with Mantle enabled cutscenes stutter horribly. For JC3 the stutter seems to be when objects are loading in. For a little bit the issue went away when I enabled the game to run as admin but then it came back. The new patch for it the other day also did nothing nor did it remove the flickering shadows. Either games are just broken or the GPU has bad drivers or is just bad
 

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Turn off vsync and increased my Target Frame Rate Control. Made a big difference. Thank You CmdrJeffSinclair. Still couldn't get the screen tearing and stutters out of lateral movements. Increase my clocks, power limits and fan speed, too. Still couldn't get it smooth. Then changed my monitor from 60hz to 144hz and used the DVD-1 dual link cable, then increased my Target Frame Rate Control to match the Refresh Rate of my monitor. It worked.
 
Don't forget to select a best answer. Also if any of you upgraded from another video card be sure to use DDU (display driver uninstall) software to completely remove any trace of a old gpu driver before you install new drivers. This seems to be a more and more common issue these days.
 

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Yeah, the last few years removing old drivers has become a pertinent issue. I recall going into HKEY and the Users file to dig traces out. What a walk in the mine field. The guy I sold my 970 to had old driver issues and members of my game clan would sit out for weeks pulling their hairs. Thanks for reminding me to select the best answer!
 
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Hello :) I have the Nitro 390 by Sapphire and I experience this too. The smoothest I can get my gameplay is by turning vsync on in the game and having freesync enabled, but all games i still get a bunch of microstutter. The only games I see that don't experience this are games that are running nvidia cards and makes me super sad :( I'm hoping with the release of the new cards coming out that this somehow gets addressed. I know they have only known about this issue since 2013, but id like to think they would put this at the top of their priority list.
 

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Had to do a lot of tricks to get a smoother framerate. Even changed from a 60mhz monitor to 144mhz because it translates into more framerate headroom. Used third party overclocking software, Afterburner (or TriXX) to increase the fps, reducing stutter. I googled as many R9 390 overclocking videos I as could find. These are a few.

http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2749337/safe-gpu-overclocking-guide-2016.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGfnieUFAtg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3rIOFP34Dg

Along with the overclocking came heat. Summer's coming around the corner, so I made an air conditioner just for the gpu.

http://man-break.com/how-to-make-your-own-air-conditioner/

As cheezy as it looks, it works. The last 4 summers in Bellingham, WA, got hot early. This April, we've had temps around 86f. What's normal is 60f to 65f. Last year, we had weeks of temps into 90's. The last cool summer we had was 2011. I'm slowly becoming a believer in global warming.
Hope some of this helps.

 

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Glad I could help :p
 

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Hey, Bud. Your profile indicates you picked up a GTX 1080. How do you like it? Did you have to purchase a Gsync monitor? Your gear looks awesome. Planning on upgrading my dinosaur late next year (2017).
 

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I was actually very surprised to run 4K so easily at maxed graphics. Games like Witcher 3 and GTA5 crank to ultra at 4k with little issues if you are OK with 40-50 FPS. The only issue with 4K as a whole I've seen is that older games cannot even output in 4K even though the option shows up in the Resolution game options. Others will let you switch to 4K in the game but then 90% of the game goes off-screen. It's weird. New games have no issues. I've been modding and playing PC games for many years but have yet to experience such odd issues haha maybe fan mods will fix them!

As for the TV, I have a Samsung KS8000 which is AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE for 4K gaming, no judder, no TV issues that older 120Hz tv's had. It's amazing and sexy and gets me all crazy every time I boot up my favorite games!!

The GTX1080 pretty much maxes all games at 4k. The Division for me was not very playable (25-35FPS) with all settings and AA cranked. Dropping AA made it into the low 40s but that doesn't count since it's an Ubisoft game. Witcher doesn't count much either when FPS sucks since CDProjekt Red is notorious for unstable games.

Games I crank at 4k with 45+ stable fps

Just Cause 3
GTA 5
Witcher 3 (modded with supreme graphics as well but no AA since it's crappy blur AA and not MSAA)
Metro Series
Thief 4
Watch_Dogs
All last gen games plus Nvidia added graphics settings

that's all I've had time to play with this month
 

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Wow. That's awesome. I began budgeting for 4k earlier this year so it's encouraging you're awashed with praise. Like you, I play a lot of fps games. Mostly multiplayer, all Battlefields and Call of Duty Ghost & Advance Warfare. I won't see my 4K till next year but I don't mine. During the summer sales I picked up a 390X to back up my 390. I was holding cash for a 1080 but I seen a sale so cheap ($229), I'd be a fool not to swoop on it. Can't get a 390 or 970 for that price. The after summer prices for them have gone ridiculously high. So now, I could keep it or pawn it off. I know you left this ball park going major league with the 1080 (lucky you) so it's no longer your concern. Happy gaming, dude.
 

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Mixing a 390X with a 390 isn't smart. Also, as much as I love AMD, as soon as I switched to Nvidia it's just night and day better. No more waiting 1-2 months for simple drivers and no more adapters for displayport that don't fuC&ing work to achieve 4k over HDMI. It was a nightmare. I had all AMD/ATI for 10 years and God I never realized how stinking tired I was of supporting the underdog that never becomes more than an underdog. Good company regardless but I'll never go back to AMD.

2x 390/390X's in crossfire still are not better than a 1080, probably not even better than a 980ti really. They ought to be, but AMD and Crossfire is a recipe for never buying a new game ever again because they take 1-2 months for a single driver then nearly a year for a Crossfire profile to come out.
 
Actually dual 390x's do beat out a 1080 if I recall correctly. Kinda like how 2 980ti's beat a single 1080. Wasn't by much but I do believe the 390x's came out on top. I'm a nvidia user and have been for awhile but nvidia is not without its issues as well in the driver department.
 

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I was referring to drivers working well enough to harness the Crossfire power. A single 1080 is more reliable than 2x 390x even if it's beaten here and there. In all pc forums, there is rarely a hotter topic than AMD Crossfire issues
 

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No, not intending to use an odd couple crossfire. Lol. It's only going to be as good as it's weakest link. It's either gotta be a 390 or 390x which ever I find first. On even ping, I beat my fellow 970/980ti friends in multiplayer games across the internet. I'm sure a lot is owed to 390's speed. Maybe I'm faster than them. A lot of times, I'm not. It's certainly has no flashy visuals like Nvidia but when a 390's tweaked in, it's all business in response time. The more I run graphics cards, the more I believe benchmarks and stats really don't get it right. Hands on gaming is a whole different league from machine to machine. Boards and cpus, drivers and hardware combinations are all different besides all the cushy devices added to make life easier.
 

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I own a Sapphire NITRO 8GB R9 390 and it can rock basically every game at 40+ FPS on 1080p both recent and old plus mods a lot of times since it has that epic size of VRAM. It will NOT do 4k. It just won't. Maybe two of them, but definitely not one unless you drop graphics to medium for last gen or low for this gen (if even that helps). I loved the 390 but had so many issues with drivers. The crimson suite is dog sh*t as it would never let me set resolution and the whole suite was ruined. I had no issues with catalyst control center though, that was top notch.
 

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What I had mixed thoughts about is why the R9 300 series is sharing the same drivers 480. They claimed the 480 card was fresh, new tech stuff arranged to go head to head with Nvidia cards, blah, blah, blah. I had to ask myself, wouldn't that conflict with R9 300 series overall performance?
I rolled back my drivers to 16.5.2 because that was my last good driver. 16.9.1 produced a lot of heat.
As I think over the date May, '16, 480 was introduced to the market. Course it's speculative. But I'm sure that's the last update for the R9 300 series by themselves. My R9 390's really humming fine. I'm not using Vsync, Freesync or any vertical sync in game options. Got a spare 390x in the closet. Everything's clear, got my clocks at a stable 1120 mhz gpu. with 25+ mV, 1580 mhz on mem clock with 60/65% fans. Temps down to 62/68c. I know I'm way above 60fps use for 1080p.
I think to myself sometimes, 'why am I thinking about moving up to 1440 where the fps drops off 20 fps?' Lol. Everyone's talking about 1440 and that motivates me. I went shopping for a large psu yesterday. Laying out the prices and cost of an Nvidia 1080 or two. Trying to let the Nvidia's loyal fans teak the 1080s before I set out buy.
 

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Both you and CmdrJeffSinclair have nice, big EVGA Super Nova G2 Power Supplies. I got a smaller 850w G2 (I should update my specs) Do the 1080s require that much power? What's the power requirement for those Nvidia 1080s?
I know this. 750w psu strains to work with one 390 when overclocking. Last winter was a joke. Lol. Anyone asking, 750w makes a fine heater.