Need a good video editing build

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http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E5-2630-v3-vs-Intel-Core-i7-5930K
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-5930K

The next logical step is to settle on the 4 core/8 thread speed of the 6700K vs the other two
options in the context of your video editing desires.

One: fastest chip with the most overhead expansion via overclocking. OC doesn't have to be vast
you could just use the options with the software supplied with something like the Hero VIII MB.

Two: since your workflow isn't enterprise level then the 980 Ti is quite acceptable as backup
for the CPU especially as you are getting 32GB of quad channel DDR4.

Three: xeons are meant for heavy loads and are usually accompanied by the quadro option, that's
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Also, I am curious know know how this system will compare to my current computer. Will it be much faster?

I have an i7-2600 @3.40GHz, 12.0 GB of RAM, no SSD, Windows 7 Pro, GeForce GT 545
 

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When I first saw your config I was worried that your partpicker menu was going to be not much better.
I was mistaken, the $2500 budget should have been a real clue.

So I take the effort now to paste [bb] from partpicker so no wrong first impressions occur.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: *Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($559.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: *Asus X99-DELUXE ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($386.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($199.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Case: *Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($112.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) ($130.45 @ OutletPC)
Sound Card: *Creative Labs Sound Blaster Zx 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($106.80 @ Newegg)
Total: $2702.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-25 16:36 EDT-0400

As for how it compares to your present system, well it should be a hell a lot faster. It should let you process larger projects with confidence.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-5930K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-2600
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-980-Ti-vs-GeForce-GT-545

Your motherboard and RAM complete the edge you are getting.

What would I change? I might add another SSD, either M.2 or PCI-e as the drive disk with your apps, then use the one you listed
as scratch and tmp. After reading the latest power supply article I might also opt for the long term reliability of a seasonic PS
SeaSonic X-850 X Series ATX 80+ Gold 850W not that the Corsair one is bad or anything.

All in all you've spent your money on the MB, CPU and GPU and have supported it with enough RAM, cooling and storage.
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2630 V3 2.4GHz 8-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($619.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($154.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($195.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 750 Series 400GB PCI-E Solid State Drive ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PNY Quadro K4200 4GB Video Card ($780.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($107.99 @ Directron)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) ($130.45 @ OutletPC)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Zx 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($106.80 @ Newegg)
Total: $2731.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-25 16:39 EDT-0400

in this build i went for the Xeon e52630, it has 8 cores and hyperthreading, so 16 threads. (4 threads more than 5930k)
this is really going to benefit you when doing video editing/rendering.

Xeon processors are made to be extremly reliable, efficient and they don't get really warm so you don't need a huge cooler ( I went with the corsair h60 water cooler for aesthetics but it's not really necessary.

I chose the quadro k4200 for the GPU, if you are only going to be video editing then you are better of getting a quadro card because they are designed to do that kind of stuff.
this will explain more about geforce vs quadro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5Npt1BSF04










 

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Thanks for the answers! I have done a little more research and it does seem like the Xeon chip is the better way to go for video editing, so I am leaning to nymzy's solution. I did have a couple of more questions:
1. You went with a Mid-Tower versus a Full Tower. I like the ability to add additional internal drives. Will the mid-tower be big enough for the future?
2. I don't worry too much about sound. Is the Sound Blaster card selected better than I need?
3. How does your power supply compare with SeaSonic X-850 X Series ATX 80+ Gold 850W recommended by Fport?
4. Also, I have never bought from SuperBiiz. Are they a good company?
 

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What software do you intend to use? If Sony Vegas, go with an AMD graphics card. Superbiz is good. I have order from there a few times before. Evga G2 series are solid PSU's and normally have a 10yr warranty. Seasonic is very good to. Corsair, RM series are not as good. Here is another option, with AMD card.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($999.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 280L 122.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X99A Raider ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($217.67 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($199.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: AMD FirePro W7100 8GB Video Card ($619.95 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill THRONE-Window ATX Full Tower Case ($149.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($121.11 @ Mac Mall)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) ($130.45 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2879.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-26 10:40 EDT-0400
 

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Current wisdom on a personal workstation for paying work is to get the fastest processor available in your budget.

That is usually followed by a recommendation for a GPU with some oomphh. (<- technical term)

Other people in video production point to the dual CPU and ECC RAM as workhorses that don't lose things due to crashing.
I used my godbox for everything and it was a behemoth 24/7 but it wasn't fast when it came to things like rendering. My
i5-4690K and now i7 - 4790K sizzle compared to it. However I do reset that computer at least once a month now. I never
thought about the godbox at all.

So now for some more questions, what are you currently using and what is motivating you to step up?

What kind of monitors are you using? Do you also have a reference monitor? Are you going to go 4K in the near future?
What kind of video input are you using, DSLR, dedicated Video Cam, Red or even GoPro?

Hard drive capacities are quite large now, if you can use SSD's for your main, scratch and working projects then I'm not sure
if it makes sense to have a raid array for speed and redundancy over a removable drive bay or two depending on your workflow.
I have a small pile of 2-4 Tb drives that I can plug in to take off completed projects. A couple of two terabyte drives internally
would probably suffice for all your files and storage with the option to store or transport on a removable drive.

I see the Quadro option vs the GTX 980 Ti. Unless you are 24/7 ish with large projects then the 980 Ti would be my choice.
Quadro's have ECC RAM and double precision floating point if you are doing high end calculations or have critical use needs.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-Quadro-K4200-vs-Nvidia-GTX-980-Ti/2838vs3439

The faster GPU, extra CUDA and 6GB DDR5 can all be used by Pinnacle.

The EVGA power supply is good and matched to the system specs of the Quadro and Xeons. I recommend the Seasonic
because it is top tier and a good power supply extends the life of all your components by being a steady sweet source
of power over its lifetime. A larger power supply also means it is not being stretched. The 850W though for your build
has less headroom over the Evga for the dual xeon build which is why I moved it up the quality scale a step.

I was a fan of your original build. You can go faster or wider for much the same money. The 5960X is a 3.0GHz option
and the Xeon is 2.4GHz but the 5930K is 3.5GHz all the time, and it has twelve threads. It also supports 40 PCI-e lanes
so that faster storage options and additional GPU's can be added. If you find that the 980 Ti isn't everything you need
you can pick up a K2200 as a second card but I doubt you will need to.

Finally, a modest overclock gets you to 4.0GHz, you have the water to support that.
 

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fport: I enjoy making movies as a hobby, and only minimally use it for work related reasons. My current system seems to be bogging down quite a bit and crashes more than I like. It is very slow for rendering, especially in After Effects.

I am primarily interested in improving render speeds. My monitors are on the older side. I have Dell and a Visio and neither qualifies as a "reference" monitor. I don't think it is likely that I will go to 4K in the near future. My current camera is a Panasonic HDC-TM700, though I plan to upgrade that soon too, but the step up won't be large.

I am a little confused on the CPU. The Xeon, from what I read, seems the better choice for video rendering. Do you disagree? Would you recommend the 5930K over the Xeon? Keeping in mind that my main concern is render speed....

 

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http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E5-2630-v3-vs-Intel-Core-i7-5930K
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-5930K

The next logical step is to settle on the 4 core/8 thread speed of the 6700K vs the other two
options in the context of your video editing desires.

One: fastest chip with the most overhead expansion via overclocking. OC doesn't have to be vast
you could just use the options with the software supplied with something like the Hero VIII MB.

Two: since your workflow isn't enterprise level then the 980 Ti is quite acceptable as backup
for the CPU especially as you are getting 32GB of quad channel DDR4.

Three: xeons are meant for heavy loads and are usually accompanied by the quadro option, that's
day in and day out rock solid performance. Not everything is thread ready to allow a massive increase
in speed and power. As I've said, faster is better for CPU cycles, more threads have their own power
but are not the same as faster threads. When you get to RAM the equation gets reversed, more RAM
is better than faster RAM.

Would something like this be what you have in mind. I left out the sound card as the new boards
have some good sound capabilities.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($369.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($91.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($195.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($171.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.33 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB AMP! Extreme Video Card ($669.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake Core V71 ATX Full Tower Case ($100.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($157.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2030.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-26 16:09 EDT-0400


http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1109387-REG/sony_hdr_ax33v_4k_ultra_hd.html - this is my
next step if I get the cash in one bundle.
 
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The difference is that it is faster by 250MHz of speed from the factory overclock and the near silence of the card at idle.

I opted for the big Thermaltake case because it is also a large card. Plus there is a lot of room for extra drives and it
has extremely large cooling fans.

As for the second SSD, of course, I just wanted to show the third alternative to the suggested setups.
I would recommend that you take your average project and scale it up double or triple size for your
fast storage needs and that might work out to two 500's which then call for a 2-4 Tb HDD as storage
and backup. You might also want to install a reader to pull clips from your cam and camera. And I
recommend that you get a removable drive bay as well because HDD keeps going down in price and
it makes a great off computer storage option.
 

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According to PartPicker, that Thermaltake case doesn't work well with that video card....

The Thermaltake Core V71 ATX Full Tower Case supports video cards up to 400mm long, but video cards over 310mm may block drive bays. Since the Zotac GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB AMP! Extreme Video Card is 329mm long, some drive bays may not be usable.

How about the Rosewill Throne Full Tower?
 

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I'd just take out the drive bay unit, I believe there are three separate pieces. I selected the case for my next build
because of its roominess, construction and cooling. In reality any mid range full tower case should be appropriate.

In the end any of three main choices and various combinations of bits and pieces will probably work as well. You
can spend in the bottom of your range or in the top for much the same result except one leaves you with some
dosh for further upgrades whether it be your video gear, software or a new screen. Overkill is not a terrible disease
but it is something a lot of people fall into without realizing it.