Can I connect a switch to two wireless routers?

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I hope that this is in the right forum as this can be counted as wireless networking or just simple networking.

Anyways I'm in a bit of a problem here; I needed a router that can perform bandwidth control however once I got one, the router failed to perform it accurately. So now I'm wondering if I can connect a switch to my modem and then have two routers connected to that switch. I understand that two networks would be created and that's how I want it. Router A will be mine and a few other select devices network while Router B will belong to everyone else, especially guests. I want router B to be throttled so I'm assuming I can hey a good enough switch to throttle the link between it and router B so technically that would be a more absolute form of bandwidth control, however I still want both networks to be Internet ready. Can I do this?
 
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An unmanaged switch is a dumb box. All it does, oh traffic for router1? shove it out to this port. traffic for router2? shove it out to this other port. That's all it does, it makes no other decisions whatsoever.

Also I'm afraid something may go awry with NAT but NAT should take place on the modem anyway.
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When a new subnet is created, THAT is NAT. So if your modem is doing NAT and your WIFI routers are...
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Well yes but it's not as easy as it sound. What is the issue with the QoS on the router? Also just b/c you connect 2 different wireless will not make them separate networks unless you go into the Wan port and change each network to a different set of IP's using DHcp in the wireless routers so Nat can work right. Once that is done where is the throttling taking place the wireless router or the switch? Why did you not think that the bandwidth control was working right?

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Well the bandwidth control I have on my router currently does half of its job. I have it set to have two SSIDs, one being the main network and another being a guest that is throttled to 30% of available bandwidth. So people have complained that isn't as fast as they wanted it to be, which is what I wanted. However if they were to use data extensive apps such as YouTube, it would actually bother the other SSID so bad that I can't even game on it. The latency would fuck me over really badly and I would then feel like the one being throttled. And just for testing purposes, I even threw on an aftermarket software on the router and it performed well using its version of bandwidth control. Unfortunately it didn't give me the ability to apply it based on SSID instead of the MAC address. Only reason why I don't like that is because if a new user or device appears, it wouldn't be throttled until I catch it. Anyways if I were to turn off throttling, I wouldn't ever see this.

So I plan to have the switch throttle it's link with router B so that way the router wouldn't need to do any work other than keep a network separate from my main devices on router A, in which I will make sure that it does this.
 
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So I guess I don't understand your ultimate goal you want then contained to 30% which you achieved but they complained so what is your goal now? If you give them over 40% and they are using it you will feel it for sure in your latency so what is your answer for this.. The only thing I can think of is come at it from the other side set your connection for highest QoS for every port and packet type UDP/TCPIP on the core router/modem and you connect directly to that yourself. This should give your connection priority over any other device if it is working correctly.

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jsmithepa, I definitely do. However my real concern is that one or both networks will get fucked over for some unforseen reason or that the switch doesn't have the ability to help govern the connection between the modem and routers, in which technically it should as its going to be almost as if the router is directly connected to the modem anyway. Also I'm afraid something may go awry with NAT but NAT should take place on the modem anyway.

thently, I actually wanted them to be throttled but if they ever performed something extensive to the Internet, I would still take a massive hit even though they are only supposed to have so much bandwidth available. My ultimate goal is to have them effectively throttled without me taking a huge hit if they ever used something like YouTube or Skype while I'm doing something like gaming. Again I tested this using the aftermarket software and it worked fine, just wasn't extensive as I wanted.
 
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Correct.

An unmanaged switch is a dumb box. All it does, oh traffic for router1? shove it out to this port. traffic for router2? shove it out to this other port. That's all it does, it makes no other decisions whatsoever.

Also I'm afraid something may go awry with NAT but NAT should take place on the modem anyway.
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When a new subnet is created, THAT is NAT. So if your modem is doing NAT and your WIFI routers are also doing NAT, you are double-NATing, this is not a deal breaker, it just makes things a little more complicated, and adds latency, which a gamer may find unacceptable. With double-NATing, port forwarding, again, becomes more complicated.
 
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Well my main concern with NAT is that somehow my routers will no longer be able to connect outside... But I'll make sure it's not trying to double NAT.

The switch, all I want to do is issue a command to limit bandwidth on one link and that's all.
 
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Update: I checked to see if my current router was the machine performing NAT and it was, so this means the NAT does not get performed at the modem. So in order to do this, I need a device that will perform NAT so that way my other routers will already be in the private network.
 
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