Does my Power Supply have enough Wattage

Computing Skrub · Nov 3, 2015

As the title says, Does my 850W power supply: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8989534

have enough wattage to run all of these specs?

CPU: http://ark.intel.com/products/80807/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_40-GHz

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132412

GPU: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-630/specifications (going to eventually switch to: http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-4993-KR )

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233238

Fans: 2x http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-JetFlo-120-Performance/dp/B00E20SSWQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8 and 2 other fans that are not labeled :/

Other stuff i might get: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5NV1YC2468
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822165571
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823816034&cm_re=K70_RGB-_-23-816-034-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826153168
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/corsair-commander-mini

Archaic59 · Nov 3, 2015

Ultra makes low quality power supplies. I would not even consider buying one. Your system will run fine on 650 watts. For almost the same money you can get one of the best made- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438054

Computing Skrub · Nov 3, 2015

Archaic59 :

Well too late now..... but that still doesnt answer my question.

Archaic59 · Nov 3, 2015

Computing Skrub :

Sure it does. I said 650 watts is enough. Just hope yours does not fry your computer. Good luck. :heink:

Computing Skrub · Nov 3, 2015

Archaic59 :

Computing Skrub :

Sure it does. I said 650 watts is enough. Just hope yours does not fry your computer. Good luck. :heink:

okay. I need to read the answers a bit more carefully next time, thank you for your time though.

Computing Skrub · Nov 3, 2015

Archaic59 :

but what do you just hope it doesnt fry my computer? you mean fail? because this power supply has been working fine for the last 2 months

Archaic59 · Nov 3, 2015

As I said, it's very low quality. On Tom's PSU list it's a tier 5 unit-

"Tier Five

Avoid IMMEDIATELY. These units are highly unsafe to use. No such protections added, very thin gauge wiring used, false advertising and too much to list. Reference to a higher tiered unit for a better, money saving and a much safer unit. For your safety's sake, please don't order or pick one up for use in your system. These units are a potential fire hazard and could even kill you, let alone your system."

Computing Skrub · Nov 3, 2015

Archaic59 :

Really? I have had people say that this PSU is a great psu and it has 5 stars and I hear it is very stable......

Archaic59 · Nov 3, 2015

Computing Skrub :

Maybe it will work ok, who knows. The bottom line is that it's made with cheap parts and not very safe but you could get lucky.

Computing Skrub · Nov 3, 2015

Archaic59 :

Computing Skrub :

Maybe it will work ok, who knows. The bottom line is that it's made with cheap parts and not very safe but you could get lucky.

https://gyazo.com/fdf78f34d19679aeba8e1e8712828e08
and pretty much the rest of that page says that same answer.... here is the full convo: http://www.overclock.net/t/494636/is-ultra-a-good-psu-brand

turkey3_scratch · Nov 3, 2015

Here is the hardwaresecrets review of it: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/ultra-x4-850-w-power-supply-review/10/

Voltage and ripple were poor. Capacitors from Teapo. However voltages and ripples were within nominal range.

Archaic59 · Nov 3, 2015

Forum opinions mean nothing. The tier list here at Tom's is made from in-depth reviews where the power supplies are tested very rigorously and then opened up and internal parts are examined to identify who made them and how good the quality is. I would trust that over some guys opinion at a forum. Check it out- http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

chris_shadez · Nov 3, 2015

Wattage is more than enough, you could actually SLI with 850w

You now know it is a terrible quality PSU, likely still refundable if 2months since purchase.

4790k and gtx 980... Ask yourself, would you want to risk such expensive parts with a rock bottom quality PSU?

turkey3_scratch · Nov 3, 2015

Actually, there is no reason this should be a Tier 5 power supply. The primary stage does use Japanese capacitors, the secondary uses Teapo. Transient filtering has 2 more y capacitors than recommended, and 1 more x capacitor than recommended, and a MOV. The only incorrect thing is its labelling, as wattage should be lower than 850W for the total. The 12V and 3.3 and 5V rails should not add up that high, especially since the 12V supports 720W peak. Ripple for 12V rail were 80mV, not the best but still not over 120mv. 5V rail is 20mV. The PSu also has the standard protections.

The Tier list should be updated. It simply included the brand "Ultra" as Tier 5 without seeming to delve into any of the power supplies themselves. This should be either Tier 3 or 4.

Karadjgne · Nov 3, 2015

Ok. Circles.

That review done in 2009 was on a relatively new unit, if not brand new. It was decent, at the time. What isn't mentioned IS time. Substandard caps are more prone to failure than high grade ones. Reason being is they consist of ingredients supplied by the cheapest source, which have a much higher ratio of impurities. Those 85°C caps degrade very fast, loosing as much as 15%-20% capacitance value per usage year. Basically means that your 850w, 2 month old psu in 2 years time would only be reliable for 650-700w. This is the issue. Too many think 'oh I have an 850w psu' , so push it, only to burn it up when a cap fails at 500w (it was the lowest quality cap sitting close to a heat sink).

Nobody goes back to Amazon after 2 years to update their 5 star remarks.

Ripple within specs? That ripple on the 12v rail looks like a sharks mouth fulla teeth, the ripple on my Evga G2 is almost a flat line. Huge difference. One of the determining factors on high OC stability is ripple. The higher the ripple, the lower the OC. You can't get a stable OC when voltages are bouncing around, peaking under what the cpu demands for stability.

You have a 4790k. That's a Haswell cpu. The x4 is NOT Haswell compliant, and it's an almost miracle that you haven't had sleep related issues since that psu will have serious issues supplying C6 and under voltages.

I would RMA that psu. It might be working fine today on a gpu that needs a recommended 300w psu, but slap in that 980ti with its 650w recommended psu, tomorrow, and that'll be a different story.

The Ultra X4 wasn't a great unit to start with, its actually worse than the X3 it succeeded (a decent mediocre unit), but it can and will go downhill in a hurry.

Computing Skrub · Nov 4, 2015

Karadjgne :

Ok. Circles.

That review done in 2009 was on a relatively new unit, if not brand new. It was decent, at the time. What isn't mentioned IS time. Substandard caps are more prone to failure than high grade ones. Reason being is they consist of ingredients supplied by the cheapest source, which have a much higher ratio of impurities. Those 85°C caps degrade very fast, loosing as much as 15%-20% capacitance value per usage year. Basically means that your 850w, 2 month old psu in 2 years time would only be reliable for 650-700w. This is the issue. Too many think 'oh I have an 850w psu' , so push it, only to burn it up when a cap fails at 500w (it was the lowest quality cap sitting close to a heat sink).

Nobody goes back to Amazon after 2 years to update their 5 star remarks.

Ripple within specs? That ripple on the 12v rail looks like a sharks mouth fulla teeth, the ripple on my Evga G2 is almost a flat line. Huge difference. One of the determining factors on high OC stability is ripple. The higher the ripple, the lower the OC. You can't get a stable OC when voltages are bouncing around, peaking under what the cpu demands for stability.

You have a 4790k. That's a Haswell cpu. The x4 is NOT Haswell compliant, and it's an almost miracle that you haven't had sleep related issues since that psu will have serious issues supplying C6 and under voltages.

I would RMA that psu. It might be working fine today on a gpu that needs a recommended 300w psu, but slap in that 980ti with its 650w recommended psu, tomorrow, and that'll be a different story.

The Ultra X4 wasn't a great unit to start with, its actually worse than the X3 it succeeded (a decent mediocre unit), but it can and will go downhill in a hurry.

Then what PSU would you recommend for me to get and be able to have no issues with the specs i want?

Archaic59 · Nov 4, 2015

650 watts is more than enough for an i7 with a single 980 ti. I recommend an EVGA 650 G2-

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $59.99 after rebate
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-04 16:29 EST-0500

Archaic59 · Nov 4, 2015

Any of these 3 are fine for your system. All 3 are made by Seasonic.

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/compare/antec-power-supply-edg650%2Ccyonic-power-supply-au650x%2Cxfx-power-supply-p1650bbefx/

Computing Skrub · Nov 4, 2015

Archaic59 :

how about this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438017&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&c

Archaic59 · Nov 4, 2015

Yes that's a G2, same as I recommended earlier, only 750 watts instead of 650.

turkey3_scratch · Nov 4, 2015

@Karadjgne: I never said it was good, just more of a Tier 4. Ripple is within spec. I never once said it was as good as the G2, I'm just stating the truth. Of course it won't last long, but that is why it would be Tier 4.

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