Need help for building a budget gaming PC...

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Hi, I need some help in building my first gaming PC without monitor, mouse and keyboard. Budget is around RM2800, about 650 usd. I would like to use it to play Dota 2, COD and GTA in smooth Fps.

This is my current demand

Processor : Intel i5 4690
Mobo: Asus B85M-Pro Gamer
Graphic Card: Asus Nvidia GTX Strix 750 Ti
RAM : Kingston DDR3 1600 4GB x2
Internal Hard Drive : Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM

Other than that, I do not know what power supply or casing will do. Is it possible to build within budget? Any other thing did I need? Your suggestion and advice will be appreciate.

Thank You.

 
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I'd say no to the CPU cooler - unless you're planning on overclocking, it's really not worth it as all the Intel ones come with a cooler/fan.

As for your builds, option 1 wins hands down for me. Faster/newer CPU and faster RAM. The only thing that is missing should you need one is an optical drive. You might also want to consider additional storage should you have tons of music files, but then again, you might have an existing HDD that you can just plug in.
Finally, just double check you have the cables/screws - it's highly annoying when you have all your new toys arrive and then have to wait until the next day to assemble it as you've got home after work/college/school and realise that you need an extra SATA cable and the shops are...

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It's entirely possible to do for your budget - the components listed only come to $591.86 on partpicker BUT...
It's not the best build in the world for the money.
Also, do you need Windows as that will change my answer when it comes to suggesting parts for you.
JT
 

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The Windows u mean is the operating system? It affect a lot? By the way may I know how do you select the PSU and Casing? Sorry that I am really not so familiar about it. Any other suggestion for my build?
 

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Yes, Windows is the operating system. Do you need a copy? Or do you already have a license key?
As for the case - the case is generally just an aesthetic choice - unless you're a stickler for how it looks like inside - in which case, you'll want a case that offers cable management options.
The power supply you can work out by the components you pick - a weaker graphics card generally consumes less power than a more powerful one.
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Yup, I have one already. So am I just need to find a Power Supply and Casing and it will be done? Do you think that my build is alright? Because I just want to use it to play Dota 2, COD and CS:GO.
 

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This is what I suggest:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZFRWpg

This is based on the PC Gamer's best budget build for £600 ( http://www.pcgamer.com/pc-build-guide-budget-gaming-pc/ )- I've modified it to try to keep it within your budget - I'm within 5% of your price - $663.83
A couple of notes:
1) This doesn't have a DVD drive - they're about $15, so it's up to you whether you think you need one. I basically install everything digitally rather than using DVDs nowadays, although it is useful for hard backups.
2) It's not got the biggest amount of storage in the world, but it does have a very fast SSD. I felt that should you need more, you could probably save up for that.
3) The CPU is weaker than your suggestion. However, the graphics card is far stronger. Ultimately, if you're playing games, I think this is the way to go.

Let me know what you think.
JT
 

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Yeah, this is Cool, but just want to know is the CPU matter? Is there any big different between i5 and i3? And about the Graphic Card, I am quite struggling between Nvidia and AMD. I know it was a very hard decision. But I wish to know which will be more stable and more smooth in the game. How about Asus Strix GTX 960? *Btw, I switch on my PC for about 8~10 hours daily. Afraid of the elec bill as well. :pt1cable:
 

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Hi again,

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CPU
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Intel CPUs are split into 5 categories:
- Celeron
- Pentium
- i3
- i5
- i7
So your looking at 3*s or 4*s (an Intel term) in terms of quality. The differences are as follows:
http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i3_6100-556-vs-intel_core_i5_6400-527
You'll notice that the i3 is only a dual core processor whereas the i5 is a quad core. However, the i3 does have a trick to 'almost become' a quad core called hyper-threading.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading
This basically gets the two physical cores of the processor to deal with two threads (instructions) at the same time. Not as quick as an actual physical core doing the work, but a nice way round.
It also uses less power by almost 20W.
So you'll see from the cpu-monkey website, that the two are very close in terms of spec. Very few games are coded to use more than two cores anyway, so you'll save yourself about $70.

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GPU
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I have only heard good things about the AMD 3** series. However, I must admit that I have only used Nvidia. Did a quick internet search and the equivalent of a R9-390 is a GTX 970.
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-390-vs-GeForce-GTX-970
Like the CPUs, very similar. The R9-390 does have twice the vRAM, so that COULD be a factor longer-term. However, the GTX 970 uses significantly less power.
On Tom's Hardware itself:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

You'll notice they're both in the same row on the table. So you'll be fine with either.
Thus, go with the i3, and then your call on the GPU (only make sure you don't go for the weaker 960).
 

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Thanks a lot ! The information is useful. Would like to ask about suggestion between Strix-GTX 960-DC2OC-4GD5 or Strix-R9 380-DC2OC-4GD5? And also do I need a CPU Cooler?

This will be my revised build:

Option 1:
Processor : Intel i3 6100
Mobo: *ASRock B150 Gaming K4 / Z170 Pro4S
Graphic Card: *GTX960 / R9 380
RAM :Ripjaws4 RED 2x4GB DDR4 2400Mhz
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
PSU: Cooler Master G550M (80+Bronze)
Case: Cooler Master N300 ATX Mid Tower Case

Option 2:
Processor : Intel i3 4160
Mobo: Asus B85M-Pro Gamer
Graphic Card: *GTX960 / R9 380
RAM :Kingston DDR 3 1600
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
PSU: Cooler Master G550M (80+Bronze)
Case: Cooler Master N300 ATX Mid Tower Case

Which would u suggest? Anything that I missed out? Is it okay? The shop I used to go I am not sure they have the Z170 Pro4S, is it okay with thr B150 Gaming K4?
 

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I'd say no to the CPU cooler - unless you're planning on overclocking, it's really not worth it as all the Intel ones come with a cooler/fan.

As for your builds, option 1 wins hands down for me. Faster/newer CPU and faster RAM. The only thing that is missing should you need one is an optical drive. You might also want to consider additional storage should you have tons of music files, but then again, you might have an existing HDD that you can just plug in.
Finally, just double check you have the cables/screws - it's highly annoying when you have all your new toys arrive and then have to wait until the next day to assemble it as you've got home after work/college/school and realise that you need an extra SATA cable and the shops are shut!
Finally the Graphics cards are just about on a par with the R9-380 taking the edge. I think you'll do well with either though. Both the models you've picked out have 4GB of vRAM. The 960 draws less power, so you might want to take electricity bills into consideration. But a lot of sites put the 380 ahead:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-graphics-card-review,review-32899-7.html
(You'll notice that the 380 comes in the row above the 960).
Hope this helps!
JT
 
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