My first build, please give some comments

Scary_crow

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Hi everyone, I am from Australia. I am new to the forum and new to PC building. Currently I am thinking to build a new PC, this will be my first build so I would really appreciated some comment and suggestions. I don’t really have a budget for this, but I would like to keep the price down, so I am looking for parts that can provide the best value for money. I am not really planning to over clock the CPU.

Below is my current list of parts that I am considering.

CPU: Intel Core i5 6500 (AUD $299)
Mother board: ASUS Z170-P (AUD$ 199) (or should I go cheaper, such as ASRock Fatal1ty H170 Performance Motherboard (AUD $175) or MSI B150 Gaming M3 Motherboard (AUD $189))
RAM: G.Skill Value F4-2400C15D-16GNT 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 (AUD $169) (For ASUS. If for the other two motherboard, Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2A2133C13R 16GB (2x8GB) ($169))
SSD: OCZ ARC 100 Series 240GB 2.5in SSD (AUD$119) (Mainly for OS and essential softwares to boot faster. I guess I can do with 120GB, but 240GB seem to be a better value at the moment. Though I have never used SSD, so please give me some recommendation as to what capacity would be enough)
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 (AUD$135) (I will need 3TB, I got lots of stuff lol)
Graphic: MSI GeForce GTX 970 OC 4GB (AUD$499) (Or should I go for ASUS GeForce GTX 970 Strix DirectCU II 4GB, which is just $10 more)
PSU: Corsair VS650 ATX Power Supply (AUD$85)
Case: In Win 503 Mid Tower Case Black (AUD$99)
Optical drive: Samsung SH-224DB 24x DVDRW OEM (AUD$19)
OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 32/64-bit Retail DVD (and take advantage of the free upgrade) (AUD129)

Total price: AUD1752 (from PC case gear)
(http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=wish_lists&wlcId=513526&action=wish_lists)

I still need to get a monitor on top of this, so it will be great if the price could be cut down further.

As this is my first built, my major concern is whether I am missing essential parts and part comparability (such as whether parts will physically fit together and whether I got enough power). I am planning to just use the CPU cooler that comes with the CPU.

By the way, is ASRock motherboard any good? I thought it is a decent brand, but some of my friend told me that it is not great.

Any suggestion and comment would be greatly appreciated :D Thanks in advance.



 

Scary_crow

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Thanks for your suggestions and comments logainofhades.

As for the motherboard, the ASUS can run ram at a higher speed (3466MHz) while the ASRock only run at 2133MHz, is that going to make a noticeable difference in real life?

Also for the PSU, is 650W too much for my system? I have been looking at some 80+ bronze with similar power output, but they are at a significant higher price point. So I am wondering whether I could cut cost by lowering the power output and use that ‘saving’ to put in the quality of the PSU.
 

Mike_jo3

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Here is what I could come up with

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($295.00 @ Umart)
Motherboard: Asus H170-PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($182.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($155.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($135.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($133.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($495.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: Inwin 503 BLACK ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: Cooler Master 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.00 @ CPL Online)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($129.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $1712.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-12 04:29 AEDT+1100

The PSU is only 450W but its a good one and also enough for this build
I also thought you would want a cheap one as you want to cut down on the cost
 

Scary_crow

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Thanks Mike__jo3 :D

I will defiantly look into the PSU. As for the motherboard, I am currently thinking to go with ASRock Fatal1ty H170 Performance Motherboard. I managed to find it selling at around $160, so it would save me quite a lot from my initial estimate.
 

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I am back with my latest part list. Most of the thing have been finalised, except for PSU and Monitor that I hope you can give me some comment.

- CPU: Intel Core i5 6500 ($295)
- Mobo: ASRock Fatal1ty H170 Performance Motherboard ($159)
- RAM: Patriot 8G Single DDR4 2133 Desktop RAM (@$69, will get 2 of this, so $138)
- SSD: Samsung 850 EVO ($135)
- HDD: Seagate 3.5" Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 SATA3 ($133) (or Toshiba 3TB 7200RPM HDD (DT01ACA300) ($129))
- HDD: Seagate 3.5” Barracuda 2TB (My current HDD that I am using with a dock, I will probably put this in my new built. Included in this list here for power estimation purpose)
- GPU: Gigabyte N970WF3OC-4GD 4G GTX 970 WINDFORCE OC ($479)
- Case: In Win 503 Mid Tower Case Black ($99)
- Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0 24x SATA DVD-RW Drive OEM ($19)
- OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 32/64-bit Retail DVD ($119)
- PSU: See below (approx. $100)
- Monitor: See below (approx. $180)
- Ebay wifi usb ($3) (only going to use this temporarily, will probably get a branded, bigger and better wifi usb later down the track. Perhaps closer in Christmas at Christmas sales :D)

Estimated total: $1860

Now for PSU, I have got this two options:
Antec HCG-520M 520W High Current Gamer Modular Power Supply ($104)

Antec High Current Gamer 620W Power Supply (Also $104)

The 520 is modular and 620 is non-modular. So basically I don’t know how much power I need. I have used this calculator: http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator, and for everything above (including potential future upgrade, such as extra WLAN card, High end sound card and an extra HDD), it said a load wattage of 461w, recommended UPS rating: 900VA and recommended PSU wattage 511W.

However what worries me a bit is that the graphic card said the recommended wattage is 550w. So is 520W enough?? I heard that higher wattage is not always better as it just going to be a waste and PSU wouldn’t work at it best efficiency. On top of that, modular seems to be a nice feature to have and it provide a longer warranty, so I am leaning toward the 520w more if it can do the job and be future proof.


As for monitor, I have 4 choices (I am not sure whether it is ok to ask about this in this section of the forum, please forgive me if I am posting stuff that doesn’t exactly belong here):

AOC 23.6" E2450swh ($140)
Benq 23.8" GW2470H ($169)
LG 24M47VQ-P 23.8” ($179)
LG 24MP47HQ 23.8” ($189)

I would like to save a bit as my PC parts already cost me a fair bit. AOC got a fantastic price and spec. It said it got a 2ms response time, it doesn’t say what type of panel it uses, but I am guessing it is TN. Problem with this is, it is an AOC, I am not sure whether this thing is reliable or not. BenQ is rather nice, it laid between AOC and LG both in terms of quality and price. It uses a VA panel. Though I am a bit worry about its built quality and reliability (but much less worry than the AOC). The LG LG 24M47VQ-P got a TN panel, spec is not as good as BenQ I think, so the real advantage is the brand and reputation. The LG 24MP47HQ is nice, it is IPS panel. It is also reliable I think. However it is the most expensive, and it also only have 1xHDMI and 1xD-Sub and no VESA mount. I can’t find much reviews on these models. So I would really like to get some advice on this. I am very tempted by the AOC price, but on the back of my mind I am also worry that AOC will have lots of problem.
 

Mike_jo3

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Hi

Here is what I come up with

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($295.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty H170 Performance ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($175.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: Patriot 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($138.00)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($133.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card ($479.00 @ Umart)
Case: Inwin 503 BLACK ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: Cooler Master 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.00 @ CPL Online)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer ($18.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 OEM (64-bit) ($119.00)
Monitor: BenQ GW2255 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($129.00 @ IJK)
Monitor: Asus VX228H 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($179.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $1853.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-15 21:55 AEDT+1100

First of all the PSU that I picked here is better than the suggestion you gave although it has lower watts it does not matter as you are not going to OC your system. It is better in a way that it is a 80+ gold certified PSU which means its not going to waste as much power as the bronze certified PSU. If you click the pcpartlist parts list it will show you all the list and on the top bar beside the history button they will show you the maximum estimated power your system will consume (not OC). If you want a higher watt PSU I would recommend you to buy a 80+ gold certified although it is a bit more expensive.

I would recommend you this PSU if the 450W PSU is not enough in you opinion :
Power Supply: XFX TS 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($119.00 @ CPL Online)

For your Monitor from your suggestions I would prefer BenQ as it is a trusted brand for gaming monitors. From the parts list that I gave you there are 2 suggestions that you might want to consider although both are 21.5" monitors. Both have some reviews and most of them says that those two monitors are good.

I hope this helped you in anyway.
Good luck on your build