Does anybody know if there'll be more skylake releases?

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More specifically enthusiast class desktop processors like a hexacore I7? Or do you think we already have every skylake offering that there will be?
 
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Intel has absolutely no reason to increase the core count on their mainstream CPUs right now, not with AMD providing zero competition in the high performance front. Right now Intel is selling their 6+ core chips at a huge premium for the enthusiast sockets only as they can get away with it. That's only going to change if one of two things happen, either AMD makes drastic improvements with Zen and are actually competitive from a performance standpoint again and Intel is forced to release more affordable hexacore CPUs to compete, or we hit a brick wall when it comes to shrinking transistors and the only way to offer any sort of performance improvement to justify new CPUs is to increase the core count.

Either way, neither of those things...
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Hexacores for the LGA 1151 socket on Skylake or Kaby Lake are unlikely. If AMD somehow manages to not screw up with Zen we might start seeing mainstream hexacores with Cannonlake in 2017, especially if we aren't going to be able to shrink any lower than 10nm for about a decade or so, which seems to be the rumour floating around.
 
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Hexacores for the LGA 1151 socket on Skylake or Kaby Lake are unlikely. If AMD somehow manages to not screw up with Zen we might start seeing mainstream hexacores with Cannonlake in 2017, especially if we aren't going to be able to shrink any lower than 10nm for about a decade or so, which seems to be the rumour floating around.
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Why is it unlikely we will see hexacores with LGA1151? I'm not disagreeing, just asking because I'm pretty new to Intel, I've only ever used AMD cpus before but I'm wanting to try Intel now. It just seems to me though that quad core is just a little bit old fashioned now. Especially with DX12 being the new big thing which can utilize more cores. It seems a bit daft they wouldn't make a cpu with more than 4 cores.
 
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Intel has absolutely no reason to increase the core count on their mainstream CPUs right now, not with AMD providing zero competition in the high performance front. Right now Intel is selling their 6+ core chips at a huge premium for the enthusiast sockets only as they can get away with it. That's only going to change if one of two things happen, either AMD makes drastic improvements with Zen and are actually competitive from a performance standpoint again and Intel is forced to release more affordable hexacore CPUs to compete, or we hit a brick wall when it comes to shrinking transistors and the only way to offer any sort of performance improvement to justify new CPUs is to increase the core count.

Either way, neither of those things are going to happen during Skylake and Kaby Lake's release window. AMD won't be releasing Zen until late next year at the earliest, possibly early 2017 if they run into issues with the yields on their 14nm process. The brick wall in shrinking transistors is coming soon, and we might be on 10nm for a very long time. Intel's first 10nm offering will be Cannonlake and it will be coming out some time in 2017. Cannonlake might see mainstream hexacores, if AMD's Zen is actually competitive, if not Intel will probably ride out their current CPU marketing structure for another year or two until they are forced to offer mainstream hexacores due to a lack of alternatives for increasing performance, and thus giving people a reason to buy a new CPU.
 
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Intel has absolutely no reason to increase the core count on their mainstream CPUs right now, not with AMD providing zero competition in the high performance front. Right now Intel is selling their 6+ core chips at a huge premium for the enthusiast sockets only as they can get away with it. That's only going to change if one of two things happen, either AMD makes drastic improvements with Zen and are actually competitive from a performance standpoint again and Intel is forced to release more affordable hexacore CPUs to compete, or we hit a brick wall when it comes to shrinking transistors and the only way to offer any sort of performance improvement to justify new CPUs is to increase the core count.

Either way, neither of those things are going to happen during Skylake and Kaby Lake's release window. AMD won't be releasing Zen until late next year at the earliest, possibly early 2017 if they run into issues with the yields on their 14nm process. The brick wall in shrinking transistors is coming soon, and we might be on 10nm for a very long time. Intel's first 10nm offering will be Cannonlake and it will be coming out some time in 2017. Cannonlake might see mainstream hexacores, if AMD's Zen is actually competitive, if not Intel will probably ride out their current CPU marketing structure for another year or two until they are forced to offer mainstream hexacores due to a lack of alternatives for increasing performance, and thus giving people a reason to buy a new CPU.
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Thank-you, that's a very comprehensive answer. I'm looking forward to see what AMD can pull out of the bag with zen. Hopefully it'll give Intel some good competition and get fast CPU advancement going again.
 
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