Fallout 4 low fps (framerate) problem

Kuze_LT · Nov 10, 2015

Hello thread! Wondering about my computer situation, on Fallout and its performance, because I have really low FPS.

Here are the specifications on my 8 year old delicate computer , that runs GTA V at medium quality , maxed out resolution.

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz 3.17 GHz
RAM : 4.00 GB
System type : 64-bit system Windows 7
Display adapter: AMD Radeon R7 200 Series (Display adapter was changed, so I would run better games)

I always know the problem and fix it, this time I don't know the problem: is it because of low RAM ? Is it because of processor ? Is it because AMD hasn't created "Beta" Drivers for Fallout 4, like they did for COD Black ops 3 in 15.11 Beta driver ? Or maby it is because of my hard drive, because its old . Simplistically is it Hardware problem, or Software ? What to do ?

It is really weird, because my pc runs GTA V with 50 Fps, but Fallout 4 with spiky 20 FPS, almost like twitching or should i say mouse lag alike. Why my pc runs GTA V in a good way and Fallout runs in bad way ?

mudpuppet · Nov 10, 2015

The system requirements do state a minimum of 8GB for RAM. As far as the GPU goes, using this as a gauge: http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R7-260X-vs-Radeon-HD-7870 your graphics seem to be on the low scale, probably why you're averaging 20 frames. It's possible a driver update from AMD could help some, but like you states, it's an 8 year old system so it may be time to start looking at updating some hardware.

James Mason · Nov 10, 2015

Uhh, which R7-200 card? there's like 6 of them and most are garbage.
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=151,150,161,162,149,168

Try turning of God Rays, as that can greatly impact performance, and try running it on lower settings.

Your computer should be able to run it at least playable, but only just playable.

mudpuppet · Nov 10, 2015

This is a comparison between the system requirements for GTA and F4

Minimum Requirements for GTA V
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs) / AMD Phenom 9850 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs) @ 2.5GHz
CPU Speed: Info
RAM: 4 GB
OS: Windows 8.1 64 Bit, Windows 8 64 Bit, Windows 7 64 Bit Service Pack 1, Windows Vista 64 Bit Service Pack 2* (*NVIDIA video card recommended if running Vista OS)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 1GB / AMD Radeon HD 4870 1GB (DX 10, 10.1, 11)
Sound Card: Yes
Free Disk Space: 65 GB

Minimum Requirements for Fallout 4
CPU: Intel Core i5-2300 2.8 GHz/AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 GHz or equivalent
CPU Speed: Info
RAM: 8 GB
OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
Video Card: NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti 2GB/AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB or equivalent
Free Disk Space: 30 GB

When it comes down to it, your system is dated and is barely (if that) meeting the system requirements for these new games. Again, the 20 frames sounds about right and 30 would be ideal, but with the current setup... it's gonna drag some.

Kuze_LT · Nov 10, 2015

I really would update my hardware, but my pc runs witcher 3/Gta V/Wolfenstein The new order : The AAA titled games above avarage (Medium quality, with max resolution) at playable Fps 30~60 , but its something different about Fallout 4 , even its graphics arent that very special and my pc has problems. The game runs mostly at 35~60 fps , but every few seconds it has Twiching, that stuns screen for 0,5 second, and looking like an fps drop.

Kuze_LT · Nov 10, 2015

Video card: AMD Radeon R7 240, with 2GB DDR3 PCI-E 3.0 DirectX 11.2
Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6613)
DAC Type : Internal DAC(400MHz)

mudpuppet · Nov 10, 2015

Well just off the requirements above, the GPU is sitting AT the low end and by a comparison to their suggested AMD it's below, and the RAM is half of what the minimum requirement states. As mentioned, you can try and drop it to the lowest in-game settings you can and hope that AMD comes out with a driver update to help, but I don't think it will get you up to a constant 60 frames.

James Mason · Nov 10, 2015

Ouch, yeah an r7 240.

It's very likely FO4 will run okay after it's had a few performance patches, like Witcher 3 and GTA5 have already gotten.

But otherwise the game runs really great on not amazing hardware, what would be considered "entry level" i3 and 750ti can run the game on ultra settings at a "playable" 40 FPS.

Kuze_LT · Nov 10, 2015

Just for the sake of clear mind , does any kind of FPS drop depend on RAM and processor ? Because even tho I have okay video card, I still have constant fps drop, its like if I would play right now , I would play with good fps and it would drop every few seconds, damaging game experience.

James Mason · Nov 10, 2015

Well, your entire computer isn't very strong, all your parts are holding you back in some way.

Kuze_LT · Nov 10, 2015

I really think , there is a specific software problem.

mudpuppet · Nov 10, 2015

There could be a driver fix that helps, but the hardware itself IS holding you back. You compared performance to other games which only goes so far, but again, those requirements are less than what this game is asking for. The RAM may not directly effect the FPS, but it will probably help cause issues as you are using half of the MINIMUM requirement Bethesda is telling you your system needs.

Games are coded differently and use the same hardware in different ways at different times. It could very well be that this game isn't coded well to run on your system so while it may be playable, it may not be optimal.

Kuze_LT · Nov 10, 2015

Well I guess there is no cheap solution, hmm , Atleast the game is running on my system with 1 problem . The best I can do is wait for game patches,wait for beta AMD driver 15.12 and optimyze games settings. Thanks for realization.

mudpuppet · Nov 10, 2015

Hopefully things get better, and who knows maybe a patch to the game and a driver update will smooth things out for you. At the very least you know that going forward, you might have to look at saving for an updated system for future titles. Best of luck though!

Kuze_LT · Nov 10, 2015

Okay , I found a solution! : )))) , I did some tinkering, I overclocked my Video card Ghz from 740, to 900 and messed with Fallout settings.ini, so now Fallout 4 has good performance. Fps drops changed from 10 Fps, to 30 , so basicly my game runs on 60 fps and only drops to 25~30 fps for a half a second.

Wayfall · Nov 11, 2015

My computer specs:
-i5 4460 3.20GHz
-MSI GTX 970 4GB
-Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600Mhz 2x4GB Dual Channel 8GB kit
-1920x1080 LG monitor
-500w Corsair Bronze
-1TB WCD Hard drive
-ASRock Z97 Anniversary Motherboard
-Windows 7 Ultimate
-Bit Fenix Mid-tower case

Sorry to say but your pc is not all that good enough.
Here's a list that may help:
-Your cpu is good but is very old and i'm talking 2008 old you may want to go for a new cpu like a new socket type Intel i5 quad core CPU (or AMD equivalent)
-The game NEEDS 1 stick of 8Gb of ram or 2x4GB dual channel ram up to you.
-For a playable optimized experience I would recommend at least a Nvidia GTX 900 series card thou expensive it will last you (about 2-3 years but that is a guess), also to add the MSI GTX 970 4gb requires a 6pin and 8pin PCIE power cables which many PSU's have, hell my Corsair CX even have them.
-A WCD 1TB hard drive for your games and junk and then an SSD for your OS (Maybe stick a few long loading screen games on it)
-I would recommend at 550w gold PSU for long life and to handle the GPU mostly as it requires a 500W PSU (I will be upgrading mine soon to a gold rated one)

Hope this helps

Kuze_LT · Nov 11, 2015

I said , I found a solution and with that solution, I didn't spend , not even a dime :

"Okay , I found a solution! : )))) , I did some tinkering, I overclocked my Video card Ghz from 740, to 900 and messed with Fallout settings.ini, so now Fallout 4 has good performance. Fps drops changed from 10 Fps, to 30 , so basicly my game runs on 60 fps and only drops to 25~30 fps for a half a second."

Overclocking isn't popular or any other way of enchanting PC , because of corporation marketing.

mudpuppet · Nov 11, 2015

Overclocking and modding is incredibly popular, it will however void any warranty on the parts in most cases. As for corporate marketing, they make a stable chip and market it as such. Not all chips can hit the same marks so while a base 3.5 chip might be able to hit 4.0, all chips may not be able to hit that mark, so it's designed for multiple reasons to be a 3.5 chip.

As for the solution, that's great and hopefully you enjoy your time with the game, but keep in mind posters are here to help and offer advice. OCing can only carry you so far and as game requirements increase, eventually you'll have to look at new hardware.

Cheers

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