X99 Budget Pc Build need advice / thoughts

BenjaminP · Nov 15, 2015

Hello,

I would like to build the following X99 pc, but i need some advice / thoughts about it to see if everything is compatible and/or should be replaced by somthing else.
Also i live in Belgium so i'm thinking of ordering in Germany for the lower prices.

ASRock X99 Extreme4 Intel X99 So.2011-3 - € 210,52

Intel Core i7 5820K 6x 3.30GHz So.2011-3 WOF - € 388,98

Corsair Hydro Series H75 Wasserkühlung Set - € 84,42 - Will this cooling allow me to achieve a low/mild overclock ? (to 4ghz max)

8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR4-2400 DIMM - € 48,83

250GB Samsung 850 Evo 2.5" (6.4cm) SATA - € 77,85

750 Watt Corsair CX Series Non-Modular 80+ - € 86,72 -Is this power suply good enough and will it handle SLI GTX 970's if i decide to buy a second one in a while?

4096MB KFA2 GeForce GTX 970 Black Edition -€ 314,94

Sharkoon VS4-S Midi Tower ohne Netzteil - € 23,85 - Is this case big enough for all componements ?

Total € 1.236,11

Any advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

BenjaminP · Nov 16, 2015

Anyone ?

Qualcomm · Nov 16, 2015

I am building my own x99, too.

AsRock's x99 boards are quite solid, but I still have no idea whether to choose MSI SLI plus of AsRock Extreme4.

According to the reviews, normal air cooling is enough for overclocking 5820k to 4.4g. So I don't think you will have problem with hydro cooling.

The TDP for 5820k is 140w. If you overclock it, the power will increase, but it will still be lower than 250w. The TDP of 970 won't be higher than 200w, so 750 should be enough for SLI.

My suggestion is to grep 4*4g memory with higher frequency. 2133MHz DDR4 has no advantages over 1600MHz DDR3, so I will buy something like 2800 or 3000. Besides, x99 supports quad-channel memory. Even though there is no obvious differences between dual-channel and quad-channel, I will still buy 4*4 g instead of 2*8g.

KingDingDong · Nov 16, 2015

Just say No! to the Corsair CX!

Do not put a bottom of the barrel PSU with a high end gaming build. Get a tier 1 or 2 PSU for the list in the components forum.

Plug in all your specs here for your wattage needs.

http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

BenjaminP · Nov 18, 2015

Thank you for the answers, i changed the PSU to a

850 Watt XFX Pro Core Edition Non-Modular - 104,93 €

Qualcomm, the Ram mentioned in the setup is 2x4G, i forgot to mention that.
I dont understand the explanation about the Ram, would 2666mhz DDR4 be somthing to consider ?
16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-2666 DIMM CL16 Quad Kit - € 118,85

or should i upgrade it to atleast this?

16GB G.Skill RipJaws 4 DDR4-2800 DIMM CL16 Quad Kit - € 126,38

KingDingDong · Nov 18, 2015

Most will tell you for gaming you only need 8GB of ram. But that is now and in my 2008 q6600 build I put in 8Gb and everyone said I was nuts.

You can always add ram but sometimes it doesn't play nice and you have to replace it all as one kit. So I chose 16gb this time and everyone tells me I am nuts. Verdict due in 2022.

If you go 8GB it will probably be cheaper to get 2 4gb sticks, 16gb you should try for 4 4gb sticks to take advantage of the quad channel, but I don't think there is much performance gain. The general consensus seems to be 2400 ram is fine for gaming, it starts getting expensive above that.

Good choice on the PSU, if you can get modular it makes the case cleaner but does not give any performance gain.

tiny voices · Nov 18, 2015

Why are you going X99 for gaming? You know the 6700k is BETTER in games right?

KingDingDong · Nov 18, 2015

When did the OP say anything about gaming? Sure he picked a 970 but gaming could very well be a secondary function. How much better is the 6700? 5-10%? Meh.

tiny voices · Nov 19, 2015

it is CHEAPER and BETTER for games. If he is indeed gaming, it makes absolutely zero sense to buy an x99 CPU.

BenjaminP · Nov 19, 2015

tiny voices,

I will do some gaming but like KingDingDong said i also want to do heavy CPU tasks where the extra cores will help. Hence the choice for X99. And if the H75 in the set up keeps up with cooling the CPU im hoping to OC it to +- 4ghz.

So just from a gaming perspective, Yes i will loose some fps.
But would i really notice a big difference between those cpu's in any game currently on the market or even in the close future ? or will there be a big difference when it comes to the upcoming VR sets ?
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Kingdingdong,

I will stick with 2x4G at 2400mhz for now and add more ram in the future, because for me DDR4 is a bit overpriced at the moment .
So for the ram i currently have,

8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport LT DDR4-2400 DIMM CL16 Dual Kit (2x4G) - 63,08€

tiny voices · Nov 19, 2015

What heavy CPU tasks will you be doing?

KingDingDong · Nov 19, 2015

Tiny voices,

If you have access to a Microcenter the 5280 is cheaper and the MBs are about on par. However if you take in to account the electric costs over time, the 6700 is cheaper. Btw, cool build you have.

BenjaminP · Nov 19, 2015

video editing, game recording and some 3D design/rendering

tiny voices · Nov 19, 2015

Game recording will be EXACTLY the same on an 6700 as it would be on a 5820k.

BenjaminP · Nov 19, 2015

ok, so only the editing and 3D design/rendering would benifit from the 5820.
For gaming, will i really notice a big difference between those cpu's (>15%) ? or will there be a difference when it comes to handeling the upcoming VR sets ?

tiny voices · Nov 19, 2015

you won't see a big difference in game performance, unless you are playing at crazy high resolutions with SLI/CF high end cards.

BenjaminP · Nov 19, 2015

Ok thank you!
SLI is somthing i'm planning to do in the future, but not a crazy high resolutions.

For the GPU im still hesitating between the R9 390 and the 970, mostly for the 8g GDDR5 instead off 3,5 + 5

KingDingDong · Nov 19, 2015

Are you just recording or do you plan to stream? I have been told on this board Nvidia Shadowplay is the best for streaming but I have no experience.

BenjaminP · Nov 21, 2015

Mostly recording, but i might try streaming.

tiny voices · Nov 22, 2015

I would get for a 6700k for your uses. There is no reason to pay extra money for something you won't make use of.

BenjaminP · Nov 23, 2015

I understand your point off view Tiny voices, but here is the reason why i think the 5820 would better fit my needs

At this moment the 6700k costs around 400 euros, wich is the same price i would pay for the 5820k, so unless im missing somthing the only way to save some money would be on the Motherboard (x99 = 210 euro minimum) so the difference between the 2 builds would be around 100 euro's max?
From what you told me i wont really notice a difference (for my needs) in gaming, but i will notice a difference when i render. That is why i dont think that the "extra cash" will be wasted.

Also now that ps4, xbox one use amd 8 cores, dont you think games in the future will start to take advantage off more cores, like Arma3 and battlefield4 already do ?

tiny voices · Nov 23, 2015

The motherboard would be cheaper, yes.

You will only notice a difference in rendering if you do 2 hour+ HD projects. Just your normal youtube stuff won't be any different between the 2 chips at all.

No, game consoles have nothing to do with PCs at all. There is not any correlation between games coded for consoles and games written for PC. BF4 doesn't care about cores at all. It only did in the VERY beginning before the patch. an i3 performs as well as an 8350 in BF4 currently. Same for Arma3. Arma like clock speed so a highly clocked i5 will beat any i7 of lower clock speed in that game.

Games will not actually make any real use of more than 4 cores anytime soon. Even the most modern games still run the same or better on a 6700k vs a 5820k at the same speed.

BenjaminP · Nov 23, 2015

Ok thank you for the answer

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