Sell 970 and get 390 before dx12 comes out?

Kaisendai

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I got myself a brand new gtx 970 few months ago, quite happy with it so far but some "leaked" benchmarks of dx12 make me a bit worried cos it seems that AMD gpus will get far bigger performance boost on dx12 games. So im considering selling 970 before its price drops and getting used 390 which is even cheaper, or maybe even 390x.

I'd just like to know if my worry is justified? Thanks in advance!
 
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I would not do that. The 970 and 390 are very similar cards in terms of power. You would just be spending more money without actually upgrading.

Also, you should actually look at this article. This is tthe first game available that supports DirectX 12. Yes, the 390x saw a bigger improvement in DX 12 mode but all it really did was...

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I would not do that. The 970 and 390 are very similar cards in terms of power. You would just be spending more money without actually upgrading.

Also, you should actually look at this article. This is tthe first game available that supports DirectX 12. Yes, the 390x saw a bigger improvement in DX 12 mode but all it really did was bring it on par with the 980. It didn't make it better.

http://www.winbeta.org/news/first-directx-12-compatible-game-shows-significant-performance-improvements-on-amd-and-nvidia-graphics

On top of that, almost no games currently support DX12. I'm sure Nvida will release better drivers to take better advantage of DX12 as it becomes more mainstream. AMD might still scale better but I don't think it makes sense to pay more money to side grade to the same level of GPU you already have.

 
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This is a common tactic for the "next big thing", that usually turns out to be not so big.

-There were similar articles about Windows 8 being much faster than 7; in the end it was slower.
-There were similar articles about Windows 10 being much faster than 7 / 8; in the end it 1-2% in 3 games tested.
-There were similar articles about the 290x thrashing the 780; but what they didn't show (initially) was that 290x was very aggressively overclocked in the box. When both cards were overclocked, the 780 had a solid lead.
-There were similar articles about the 390x thrashing the ; but what they didn't show (initially) was that 390x was very aggressively overclocked in the box. When the 970 and 390x are overclocked it, the 970 is notably faster at 1080p and its a virtual tie at 1440p (970 has slight lead but at 1-2% hard to call it a big win),

Welcome to Marketing 101. It's not so much what us said, but what is not said.

"Cleans better than the leading brand" could be taken two ways:

1. This new product cleans better than the best performing detergent on the market.
2. This new product cleans better than the biggest selling product on the market, but not better than several other brands which is why the lawyers made us use the "leading brand" qualifier.

The time to make this decision is after there's at least a half dozen DX12 games tested across common platforms and the results are duplicated by several authors in both stock and OC'd scenarios.
 

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Maxwells can async a bit but Radeons can async a lot better. In AMD sponsored games,a GTX 980ti will run like a R9 290X. Maxwells lacking hardware can't be fixed through drivers.
Your worry is justified. Also Pascal won't run async properly. Volta will have specific async hardware. So for DX12 games, Amd is the best choice.
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There have been reports that a lot of developers have been working closely with AMD on upcoming titles because of DX12 / Vulkan's similarities with AMD's Mantle API, but a lot does not necessarily mean most of them and working closely does not necessarily mean that they will be optimising the game for Radeon.

"A lot" of developers will probably also be optimising their code around NVIDIA GPUs since they know that most of the people playing their game will be using NVIDIA GPUs and hence optimising their game for NVIDIA will likely have a more positive impact on their reviews i.e. there is more incentive to optimise for NVIDIA.

The likelihood is that after DX12 / Vulkan becomes commonplace in modern games, it will be the same situation as any other generation of games, that is that some games will perform better on NVIDIA whilst others will perform better on Radeon. However, I do think that DX12 / Vulkan's similarities with Mantle will perhaps result in a greater proportion of DX12 / Vulkan games performing better on Radeon than we are seeing in DX11 but since NVIDIA is more dominant in DX11 anyway, we might just see that Radeon balances things out a little more or pulls ahead a little in various benchmarks with the new API rather than jumping miles ahead of NVIDIA. We won't know for sure until games start coming out.

With that speculation in mind, I do not think that replacing your NVIDIA card with an equally performing Radeon card is justifiable. Both the GTX 970 and the R9 390 will be sufficient until the next line of GPUs come out, so you may as well just wait until then. Getting a 390X may be justifiable though, because even if Radeon doesn't see the expected performance boost with future games, you will have upgraded your GPU anyway so nothing is lost. However, I still recommend just waiting until new GPUs come out, unless you have the money to spare of course.