What's the best 4K Video Editing Computer to build? (No Budget)

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Dear Tom's Hardware Members,

Thank you for entering my thread.

I would like to build a new computer for 4K Video Editing (After Effects) for my organization.
The most important goal is to have rendering the video fast as possible.

Generally our budget is Ultimate, but we would like to consider the top 3 choices for each part.

For example, For Graphic Card we will consider from the best A-C:

A - $2000
B - $1500
C - $1200
And so on for the important parts (CPU, Motherboard, Memory, Graphic Card..)

My knowledge in hardware is not the best and I will appreciate your help.
I would like the computer to have 128GB DDR4 Memory, for that I think the best choice will be

Corsair DOMINATOR Platinum DDR4 128GB 2800 MHz (8 x 16GB)

For the rest I would need your kindness help.

Notes: No need for Hard Drives, Monitor, CD-ROM etc..
Only the Main Parts + Cooling + PowerSupply+ SSD Drive to have OS running.

Thank you very much.
 

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You can change what ever you don't like: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4NxFvK
 

4K_Video_Editing

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Dear Chris,

Thank you very much for your time building the system.

2 Questions:

1. I see that the motherboard you chose, Asus X99-E WS - support only 64GB of DDR4 Memory
and we are planning to use it with 128GB so how come?

2. Same question with CPU.
Will Xeon E5-2697 will support 128GB?
 

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There are two different kinds of Asus X99-E WS, only the one with USB 3.1 can support 128GB. And yes, the CPU will also support 128GB.

 
4K_Video_Editing.

Follows is a base system recommendation intending to list the best cost/ perfornance combination for your use. The basis of the system is to use a Supermicro Superworkstation that provides a chassis, dual LGA2011-3 motherboard, Power supply and two CPU heatsink coolers that are thermally effective up to 160W CPU's. To assemble is to simply plug in the CPU's, RAM, GPU, Drive controller, and Drives. Supermicro are specialists in servers and workstations that run at full performance continuously for long periods with extremely high reliability and are rated as quiet. There are standard and hot-swap drive bay versions. this saves a lot effort and time in researching appropriate, compatible parts and assembly time.

The iterations / options in the components list would be based on specifics of the use, e.g., the Quadro M4000 is the lowest of the M4000 / M5000 / M6000 series and this specification is assuming CPU-based rendering /effects processing. If the processing is more GPU-centric, then have 2X M4000 and change the CPU's to faster 8-cores.

The M4000 is highly capable, having performance similar to the previous series K5200 (8GB) that cost $1,800. The CPU's are E5-2650 v3 10-core @ 2.3 / 3.0GHz. to provide 20 cores and 40 threads. A logical alternative if there is 3D visualization would be to use 2X E5-2640 v3 8-core @ 2.6 /3.4GHz as the modeling would run at 3.4GHz (About $900 each).

http://ark.intel.com/products/83359

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CPU: (2) Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-2640 v3 (20M Cache, 2.60 / 3.4GHz) 8 core>

http://ark.intel.com/products/83352


CPU Cooler: (2) Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler >


Motherboard: ASUS workstation Z10PE-D8 WS>

ASUS_workstation_Z10PE_D8_WS.html

Memory: 64GB (8x 8GB) Samsung DDR4-2133 8GB/1Gx72 ECC/REG CL15 Server Memory


GPU: Quadro M4000 8GBVideo Card > 4199 zł ($1,049)


Disk 1: Samsung 850 Evo 500GBSATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) > 697zł ($172).

Disk 2 WD BLACK SERIES 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive > 576,80 zł ($143)

Optical Disk: Lg Blu-Ray BH16NS40 289 zł ($72)


Power Supply: Corsair RM 850W CP-9020056-EU Power Supply > 659 zł $16350.

/Corsair_RM_850W_80PLUS_GOLD_modularny_ATX_wiatrak_135mm.html

Case: Lian Li PC-A75X Big Tower

Again, this is considered a base system for best cost /performance at a high level with high double precision and reliability.

An alternate tactic that may be of interest would be to use a Supermicro Superworkstation base, but with a dual LGA2011 - not a v3- motherboard and used E5-2600 v1 or v2 CPU's. Depreciated Xeons can be extraordinarily good value and completely reliable. For example:

Intel Xeon E5-2680 V2 SR1A6 2.8GHZ 10 CORE
> sold for $800

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-E5-2680-V2-SR1A6-2-8GHZ-10-CORE-/281853661124?hash=item419fc98fc4%3Ag%3AOQIAAOSw%7EbFWQn24&nma=true&si=q9olKCb4scIVqwOd32fbOZa3xDM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

And this is a 10- core /20-thread at 2.8 / 3.6GHz supporting 768GB of DDR3-1866 RAM:

http://ark.intel.com/products/75277

The nearest equivalent in the E5-2600 v3 series is the E5-2660 v3 10 core @ 2.6 /3.3 GHz- a bit slower, but costing $1,500 each. So, a bit lower performance for nearly double the price. As the first two cores running at 3.6GHz, this would be a noticeably better CPU for 3D modeling than the E5-2650 v3 @ 3.0GHz which is more than $250 each more costly.

There is, of course, some risk in a used Computer component, but I've had a number of used CPU's since 2010: AMD Athlon II 64 3000+, 2X X5460, E5620, 2X E6700, X3230, E5-1620, and 2X X5680, and never a failure.

This solution is slightly generic- based proportionally on the idea of $1000-$2000 for the GPU- and key elements may not be the optimal choice. If you would like a kind of ultimate cost-no-object system, but in which the expenditure contributes on the specific use, it would help to know the specific programs used, the CPU or GPU rendering priority, typical file sizes if there is any 3D modeling, e.g., Maya or 3ds, and disk /storage requirements a system of extremely good capability may be configured in the $9,000- $14,000 range with excellent all-round performance in: modeling, animation, editing, effects processing, post-production, scoring and sound sync, graphic design, and running multiple 12-bit color-corrected 4K monitors.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

1. HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 six-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz > 32GB DDR3 ECC 1866 RAM > Quadro K4200 (4GB) > Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) > Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> Logitech z2300 > Linksys AE3000 USB WiFi > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440) > Windows 7 Professional 64 >
[ Passmark Rating = 5064 > CPU= 13989 / 2D= 819 / 3D= 4596 / Mem= 2772 / Disk= 4555] [Cinebench R15 > CPU = 1014 OpenGL= 126.59 FPS] 7.8.15

2. Dell Precision T5500 (2011) > Xeon X5680 six -core @ 3.33 / 3.6GHz, 24GB DDR3 ECC 1333 > Quadro K2200 (4GB ) > Samsung 840 250GB / WD RE4 Enterprise 1TB > M-Audio 192 sound card > Linksys WMP600N PCI WiFi > 875W PSU > Windows 7 Professional 64> HP 2711x (1920 X 1080)
[ Passmark system rating = 3490 / CPU = 9178 / 2D= 685 / 3D= 3566 / Mem= 1865 / Disk= 2122] [Cinebench R15 > CPU = 772 OpenGL= 99.72 FPS] 7.8.15

 

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Thank you for your valued time and detailed respond bambiboom.

I was indeed thinking about getting the E5-2697 V3,
but now you recommend on going on 2 CPU,
I don't know whats better.

In addition first reply offered a 12GB Graphic card and you offered 8GB.

Anyone can help me with the correct and most effective computer in that range of $7.5k - $10K ?

 


4K_Video_Editing,


The main advantages to dual processors is that with Xeon E5's there can be up to 36-cores /72 threads, providing tremendous processing power in multi-threaded applications such as rendering, effects processing, and video editing. In my view, to make the 2D modeling fast, the turbo speed should be at least 3.3GHz and the base speed 2.4GHz. With CPU's the more cores per chip the lower these speeds so dual CPU's allow higher speeds. Dual CPU's also provide all those extra PCIe lanes- 40 lanes each. This is important to be able to add devices that use a lot of lanes, for example: multiple GPU's, M.2, RAID controllers. Use a dual CPU motherboard and start with only one faster CPU with more cores and you can add another later.

Graphics cards are x16 and while many say they run perfectly well at x8, that is in systems in which the CPU, memory and disks can't saturate the GPU fully. In these applications, with dual CPU's, 128GB of RAM and a very fast disk, the GPU(s) will be fully utilized.

The GPU choice is very important and in my view, the GPU must be a Quadro or Firepro. As Autodesk and Adobe software is CUDA-accelerated, that makes Quadros the choice. If you look at the Autodesk list of cards certified for Maya:

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/syscert?siteID=123112&id=18844534&results=1&stype=graphic&product_group=19&release=2015&os=8192&manuf=all&opt=2

> there are only two GTX listed, the Titan and GTX 690. However, the Quadro drivers can run a much higher anti-aliasing rate. For a long while I had a Quadro FX4800 and there wa a special driver made by Solidworks that ran x128 AA, and that is better than x16! this makes an amazing difference in textures, reflections, shadows, color gradients- everything. The GTX are image quantity- oriented for fast gaming use and do not full render every frame in favor of speed, while Quadros finish every frame- not as fast, but image quality-oriented is the goal. Have a look at the results for Maya in this 21013 test of workstation graphics cards:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-workstation-graphics-card,3493-8.html

You can see that the task was finished by a $1,000 Titan in 283 seconds, the GTX 690 in 315 seconds while a $150 Firepro V3900 did the same work in 79 seconds. Gaming cards and workstation cards are made for very different uses.

To upgrade the earlier list for the new budget:

1. In the system previously listed, start with a single E5-2690 v3 12-core /24 thread @ 2.6 / 3.5GHZ (10 490 zł):

http://ark.intel.com/products/81713

> and later add a second one. You may not even need a second one, but the Socket is there waiting.

2.Use a pair of Quadro M4000 for a total of 16GB memory and 3,238 CUDA cores

3. Change the Samsung 850 EVO to:

Intel SSD 750 PCIe 400GB SSD | 400GB | PCIe 3.0 X4 | 2200/900 MB/s > 1 917,50 zł
http://www.komputronik.pl/product/268858/Elektronika/Cz%C4%99%C5%9Bci_PC/Intel_SSD_750_PCIe_400GB.html#

4. Add an LSI 9341-4i RAID controller


Another Option:

1. If your budget is now a maximum of $10,000, I would suggest s system similar to the previous one, but using an LGA2011 (not LGA2011-3) motherboard- probably a Supermicro, a pair of E5-2667 v2, which are 8-core / 16 threads @ 3.3 /4.0GHz.

http://ark.intel.com/products/75273

These will have to be used and in the US cost about $1,500-1,800 each.

2. The RAM is changed to DDR3-1866

3. Then, use a pair of Quadro M4000's, and change the SSD to:

Intel 750 Series AIC 400GB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SSDPEDMW400G4X1 >1 917,50 zł

http://www.komputronik.pl/product/268858/Elektronika/Cz%C4%99%C5%9Bci_PC/Intel_SSD_750_PCIe_400GB.html

4. The system also needs a RAID controller and you might consider something from the LSI 9300 series- very, very fast.

That would be in my view, a very high performing system with the advantage of a 4.0GHz modeling speed.

Cheers,

BambiBoom