X79-Deluxe + HyperX Savage?

You should never have to worry about memory compatability, That ram will work with that mobo+cpu

That is not good advice. While it is not as common due to JDEC specs there are things you always need to consider when buying RAM such as the max speed the IMC can take, and voltage. What is the max speed the board can handle as well as voltage.

While most RAM will work there are times when newer RAM module designs (i.e. higher density modules) will be incompatible with older boards/chipsets/CPUs.

OP, the QVL list is not a end all be all. It is more a list of what Asus has tested and what they have found works in what configuration. As I said most RAM will work and what you have listed looks fine for that setup.

If you're not planning any oc'ing then any decent air cooler with quiet fans will do fine (NH-D14/15, Phanteks, all the way down to a used TRUE with just about any fan at all that's sensible), though I use water AIOs such as the Corsair H80 with (for the moment) NDS PWMs in order to have both good oc'ing levels (4.7/4.8 is typical for SB-E) with low noise. Currently working on four such builds.

If you want to max it out to 64GB, I can definitely recommend the 2400MHz TridentX kits, they work very well for that, I've built several such systems using a couple of the F3-2400C10Q-32GTX kits, mostly using ASUS P9X79 WS boards.

If you do ever decide to oc the CPU though, have a look at the ASUS ROG site which has a number of specific tips on additional measures one must take when oc'ing systems with a lot of RAM. Even without a CPU oc, sometimes one may have to do a few specific changes to ensure stability with 64GB (alas, maxed out RAM is not a config that board makers tend to cater for, hence why the WS works so well since it's specifically expected people will be doing that sort of thing).

Ian.

PS. See: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231590

bh86 writes:
> ... I have the Phanteks PH-TC14PE in my Haswell build and it's great. ...

Yep, that's the one I used. 8) Actually have several doing nothing now, since I switched to AIOs.


> The reason I chose the Savage is because of it's low profile (so I can fit in a good air cooler)
> and because of it's exeptionally low latency. I will consider the TridentX but I don't think a
> Phanteks/Noctura will fit then.

One can remove the top fins for low profile usage (they're really not needed anyway), I've used them with that Phanteks model just fine, though these days honestly I'd just use an H80 instead. Makes accessing the RAM slots so much easier, maintenance, etc. I don't think I could go back to having to fiddle about with cable connections with a big HS in place, especially if one decides to change something around.

Here's a pic of the mbd and RAM kits I used for a build I did 2 years ago; fins removed, fitted to the board (CPU in place, paste on, Phanteks ready to install), Phanteks fitted, and fans fitted.

Later though, I moved the parts into a larger case and switched to an H110, which made cooling the CPU easier since it was no longer being affected by the heat coming off the four 900MHz 3GB GTX 580s.


> We found something new to him and he didn't want the parts back. I could not find anything
> wrong with it ...

Blimey!


> ... But the BIOS update failed and the board got totally bricked. ...

I'm surprised the secondary BIOS couldn't be used instead.


> nothing seems to be wrong with it.

Yay!! Hehe, way to go.

I was also lucky, won a Deluxe on eBay for 75 UKP, all bits included, barely used. It was a local seller, so I caught a bus. Originally fitted it with a 3970X, but now it has a 3930K (the 3970X moved to a P9X79-E WS I won last week).

ASUS X79 boards work really well. The only thing that lets them down (though this applies to all X79 boards) is the terrible Marvell controller used for the extra SATA3 ports. Beats me why Intel doesn't make a simple PCIe card that uses its own SATA3 controller to provide a bunch of SATA3 ports just as one finds natively on relevant mbds, they'd sell like hotcakes (though I suppose that would reduce the desire of some to fully upgrade).

Here's another build I did about a year ago: ASUS P9X79 WS, 3930K @ 4.8, 64GB @ 2400, Quadro 4000 (custom cooler), GTX 580 (CUDA), Corsair H100i and 4x NDS PWM. Side view and front view (HAF 932 case).

Ian.

bh86 writes:
> I do understand the joy of getting the large cooler out of the way, but low noise levels
> means more to me.

That's the other main reason I switched (but I don't use the stock fans).


> According to the specs the Corsair ones is double as noisy and double the price
> compared to Phanteks.

a) You're right, the noise of the stock Corsair fans suck dead bunnies through a bent straw (under full load). That's why I don't use the stock fans. I replace all the Corsair fans with Nanoxia Deep Silence PWM, which work much better, are very quiet and don't cost much (I've compared them to Noctua NF-P12, etc., they're as effective for cooling but just as quiet or even better). Here's an example packet closeup.

b) I bought almost all my Corsair AIOs refurb, so they cost less than an air cooler. Typically half the price of a new AIO. Even the H110 I bought for my latest build was only 50 (Scan UK sold 165 of them! I bought two).

The replacement fans do add to the cost a little of course, but still well worthwhile. The idea being that with better fans, I can get the cooling I want while still having low noise. The only thing one has to remember is to ensure adequate mbd chipset cooling by some other means.

I gather from reading elsewhere that it's quite common for stock fans on AIOs to be kinda loud under load. One can of course limit their speed, but that would defeat the point of the quoted cooling potential. Btw, in some cases the cooling power of an AIO is overkill, eg. even a simple TRUE cooler with one fan is more than enough to cool a 5GHz 2700K, but an AIO with 2x NDS means it can run really quiet even when under load.

Here's my secondary gaming PC, a 3930K/4.8 with a similar setup (H80 with 2x NDS PWM, GTX 980, 850 Pro 256GB, ASUS R4E, and the Antec 302 case has all NDS fans aswell).

I expect others might be nervous about buying refurb AIOs, but so far I've bought loads of them and had no issues at all (they come with an interesting warranty, Corsair will cover any damage to the whole system if there's a leak). Scan was doing the H80s cheap so I bought a whole stack.


> The Deluxe does not have a secondary BIOS. ...

Oh!! Now that I didn't know. Bad me for assuming! Gotten so used to the feature being on their other boards.


> They say something like "ASUS Crashfree BIOS" on the board. ...

Oh well, glad to know though that a replacement BIOS chip fixed it.


> Why is the Marvell controller so bad? I have heard that as well. ...

I think probably it's the drivers rather than what the hw is capable of (rather stark contrast to their controllers used inside SSDs), though in some cases it's probably partly due to the limited PCIe lanes going to the chip (a major issue with the addon PCIe cards included with boards such as the Asrock P55 Deluxe). Certainly it's one of the few drivers I've installed on any PC build that has a significant chance of messing up the system. Indeed, I don't install the complete Marvell driver bundle at all; instead, I unpack it and just use Device Manager to point the controller to only the required driver file.

However, they do work ok with mechanical drives for RAID1, though I don't know if I'd trust them with SSDs in RAID1. But yes the performance is pretty woeful sometimes; I did some tests here (tried different drivers too):

http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/misc/sata_vector_tests.txt
http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/misc/ssd_tests.txt

Performance was often better with an Intel SATA2 port.


> I don't plan to use it. I am fine with two Intel 6Gb/s for SSDs and four 3Gb/s for HDDs.

Cunning plan. 8)


> It is late here in Denmark so I will leave for now. Thanks for all your inputs (so far)!

Most welcome!!

Ian.

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As JimmySmitty said, there are a lot of things that play into DDR3 and what will or won't work, might read my FAQs and Fiction:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2741495/ddr3-faqs-fiction.html