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Hey guys
I have been trying to setup a new build for myself and I am looking for some advice/suggestions to optimize and even be sure if the build is reliable/possible.
I am not that much of a gamer any more, but would prefer a build that could perform a good smooth graphic on a 27'' 1080p screen - as it is likely I would have some periods of gaming.

The build I made for this purpose (cost: roughly 1328$)
ASUS Z170 - Pro gamer
Intel core i5-6600k Skylake
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Kingston HyperX Savage DDR4-2133 DC 16GB
MSI GeForce GTX 960 GAMING - 4GB GDDR5
Samsung 850 EVO M.2 2280 SSD - 250GB
ASUS DRW-24F1MT (optical drive)
Corsair RM650x Gold - 650W PSU
Fractal Design Define R4 - Black
Microsoft Windows 8.1 Home 64bit

I am mostly wondering if any of components will be bottleneck for eachother or the overall performance? If the build is overall reliable? And more specific:
The RAM can I get better performance if I go QC instead of DC? Worth it for 23$? Is it worth it to go from 2111MHz CL13 to 3000MHz CL15 for 57$?

The SSD Samsung SM951 looks too great on preview at 2150MBps instead of 540MBps on a normal 850 EVO. But is it reliable? and stable (without overheating and such)? If so, then it might be worth 69$? Or will the other components bottlenect performance?

Lastly will the PSU and CPU-cooler be enough for the build?


Just as an alternative, would this change give a better outcome:
ASUS Z97 - Pro gamer
Intel core i7-4790k
Kingston HyperX Beast DDR3-2400 DC 16GB

For a price difference at 40$? (total cost 1368$)
Any other suggestions? or alternatives?

And sorry for a long and properly a badly formulated text, hope it ain't too messy - would be happy for a formulated answer if it ain't too much too ask :)

Greetings
 
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-the plus of the 6600k is just the unlocked multiplier - mostly - which combined with your z series motherboard means you can oc the k cpu if needed. the i7 though, has hythreading enabled which helps in highly threaded workloads (not so much in games).

-if you're currently running on a hdd instead of ssd any choice would be great. the biggest speed difference is felt when you go from any hdd to a ssd,not so much between ssd-s. if you can afford it get the sm, the evo isn't bad either. just get a ssd

-the gtx 970 is more future proof, sure you can play most games on ultra on 1080p on the 960 right now, but the 970 gets you a bit of headroom for future games or in case you get a higher res screen later on. get whichever you can get a...
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Thank you for your attention.
About the over/underspending on cpu and gpu is it about bottlenecking? Or is it more meant as a more likely choice for a gamer?
 
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Well about that; I was alrdy convinced the i5-6600k to be the best choice, with a performance at 7807, price at 281$ and a ratio at 27,78. The lower alternative was i5-6500 with a performance at 7001, price at 223$ and ratio at 31,39. And lastly the high alternative i7-6700k with a performance at 11021, price at 445$ and ratio at 24,77. About the performance/worth ratio i5-6500 have a big victory, but it is also about being happy with the performance. I am not that much a gamer any more, but I want a good smooth running performance overall. And I think in this case the middel way with i5-6600k is the better choice? or you might call it overkill?

I had i5-2500k b4 and it was fine, but a little more wouldnt hurt :)
 
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-the plus of the 6600k is just the unlocked multiplier - mostly - which combined with your z series motherboard means you can oc the k cpu if needed. the i7 though, has hythreading enabled which helps in highly threaded workloads (not so much in games).

-if you're currently running on a hdd instead of ssd any choice would be great. the biggest speed difference is felt when you go from any hdd to a ssd,not so much between ssd-s. if you can afford it get the sm, the evo isn't bad either. just get a ssd

-the gtx 970 is more future proof, sure you can play most games on ultra on 1080p on the 960 right now, but the 970 gets you a bit of headroom for future games or in case you get a higher res screen later on. get whichever you can get a better deal on. the 970 is one of the best price/performance choices available at the moment.

-ram speed is something you rarely "feel". as long as it's a reputable brand and decent speed, the price should be your driving factor. again, pick whichever has a better deal.
 
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Again thank you very much for detailed answer.

You got a great point about the GPU and RAM - I might feel clear about that.
About the SSD: I had a Samsung 840 EVO 120GB + WD blue 1TB. I only used like 150-180GB, which make it possible to exclude the HDD completely. And well the SM951 just seem so tempting, as do the i7-6700k and 970 - but it would end me up on a high budget (which is still very tempting for the outcome).

With your input, the build (cost: roughly 1549$)
ASUS Z170 - Pro gamer
Intel core i5-6600k Skylake
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Kingston HyperX Savage DDR4-2400 DC 16GB
MSI GeForce GTX 970 GAMING - 4GB GDDR5
Samsung SM951 M.2 2280 SSD - 256GB
ASUS DRW-24F1MT (optical drive)
Corsair RM750x Gold - 750W PSU
Fractal Design Define R5 - Black
Microsoft Windows 8.1 Home 64bit

Ending up with a bit high budget though - and if it is more worth it to change:

(budget ending on: 1574$)
i5-6600k --> i7-4790k
Asus z170 --> Asus z97
Kingston Savage 2400MHz --> Kingston Beast DDR3-2400MHz

But this way ending with a bit outdated build, but high-end build of the previous series.
If i should go high-skylake without OC it might be more worth it maybe? Do you have in mind any non-OC Motherboard you can recommend for i7-6700? Ain't Asus a good way to go?

 
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it might sound weird, but drop the m2 ssd completely, stick to your current 120gb evo + wd blue for a few months at least. ssd s are just now evolving towards the m2 form factor so you pay a premium for them. that way you can focus on the other components and add the m2 shiny new ssd sometime next year. it's not like the 120 evo is bad so no reason to not keep using it? same for the ed blue, especially if it's still in warranty and wasnt used as an os drive it's got plenty life left on it.
 
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Well honestly I am getting convinced that i should wait a bit for: geforce 1000-series and the new SSD you talking about.

But just one problem with waiting; I've sold my last build, but I think I'll manage with laptop. The question is if I shall wait to buy Samsungs S27D590CS or if it is a risc too?
 
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i can't offer you advice on the monitor to be honest i haven't played with that model, samsungs are usually ok.

didn't know you dont have the old build any more, still more value in going for a cheap sata ssd for the os and a 1-2tb hdd for storage. sweet spot seems to be around 250 for the ssd.

you always have to option to go for a better m2 version later on and just plain clone the os on the new ssd
 
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Well Thanks for all the expertise you shared.
I think I'll try manage with my laptop for now - since I am convinced waiting a bit would give me more worth (And I don't have any plans for either Gaming nor performance needing tasks for a while ^^)

But then the time comes I think I'll have a much more clear idea to build the PC I need - again Thank you.
Maybe I'll Cya around then.

Greetings
 
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