5820K vs 5930K for photography & heavy multi task & some gaming

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Which is a better CPU?
It was suggested to build it all from scratch on PC Picker.. Using the Skylark i-7 6700K
But then saw these & thought save a bit & get & customize that.. The 5820 seems to be a better well rounded processor.. So here are my thoughts with as much details as I can think of as I've never built one before..

Am considering getting a HP this model ENVY Phoenix 850se Windows 7 Desktop Here is link to it.
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then doing a bit of upgrades myself (or have someone that can help)
like the SSD samsung 2.5 500GB, 2 TB HD, Graphics 970, 32 GB RAM DDR4 2400, I checked & is a Viking Motherboard that they use.. Here is link for those specs on MB for upgrading options. Noticed might not work. Here is some info


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•Manufacturer name: Pegatron HP/Compaq name: Viking •SSID: 2B3A
Form Factor: •uATX: 24x24 cm (9.4x9.4 in)
Chipset:•Intel X99 Processor upgr:
•TDP: 140 W Socket type: LGA 2011-3
Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades: Intel Core i7-5960X (Haswell-E) 3.0 GHz, 8 cores, i7?5930K (Haswell-E) 3.5 GHz, 6 cores,i7?5820K (Haswell-E) 3.3 GHz, 6 cores
Mem:
Quad channel memory architecture
Four DDR4 DIMMs (288-pin) sockets ,Supports up to PC4-17000 (DDR4-2133), Supports 2 GB, 4 GB, 8 GB, and 16 GB DDR4 DIMMs
Supports up to 4 GB on 32-bit systems
Integrated audio?
Network:LAN: 1000BASE-T?
Expansion Slots?
•PCI-E x16 (GEN3): 2, PCI-E x16 (GEN2): 1,•M.2 socket, key A: 1, •M.2 socket, key M: 1
Jumpers?
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Figure 3: Clear password and clear CMOS jumpers in the default positions
Clear password and clear CMOS jumpers in the default positions
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Also here is the other model..HP ENVY Phoenix 860se Desktop with the 1-7 6700K
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Am wondering when ready can I upgrade the Audio as well? I've never built a PC but do have the videos to learn & have a PC shop that would ONLY charge around 50$ to help & get the drivers & software etc to work. I REALLY like the processor in this model with 15 shared cache & hexi core... Thoughts?


Thank you
 
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I got a 5820k. Love it. If its cheaper overall than a 6700k, get a 5820k. Very fast and the extra cores are very helpful. In games, the 6700k actually performs better (in SOME GAMES), and only very slightly. This is due to default clock speed differences and architecture differences. I overclocked my i7 5820k to 4.1ghz and am very happy!

If youre doing heavy multitasking, get the 5820k.
 
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But is the bulk of the difference just the number of PCI channels supported? so unless you are looking at a config that exploits/needs a lot of PCI channels.. e.g. 4 way GPU, or huge numbers of addons you are not really exploiting the benefits of the 5930 over the 5820?

Cheers

 
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Hes got a good point. Save money on a 5820k
 
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It depends. There's several advances in technology on the 1151 platform that the 1150/2011v3 don't have. Things like native pcie 3.1 which puts 20 pcie lanes for use, and native support for NVMe M.2 ssds so 1k/1k read/write speeds are possible. The 1150/2011-3 need to use pcie adapters which can reduce the SSD to pcie 2.0 x4 vrs 3.0 x4, or basically 500/500 r/w speeds. So depending on exactly which platform will work better with the software can change things, entirely possible that a 6700k on Lga1151 would see better overall times for some things vrs the higher core count of the lga 2011-3 5930k.
 
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Unless you are going to go with more than 2 GPU's, the 5820K will give you the same performance as a 5930K...assuming you are OCing both of them. Besides a very small stock clock difference, the 40 PCIe lanes over 28PCIe lanes is all that the 5930K has on the 5820K.
 
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All good advice. For what I want to add to customize myself are my needs. I had originally picked the (from advice on 6700K) But then saw the HP desktops with 5820K etc....... AM NOW WONDERING IF THE motherboard Asus I picked would work with 58020 or 5930? Will have to do some more research....... Thoughts again on this?

Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard for the 6700K.
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card
NZXT Phantom 410 (Red) ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair RM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Zx 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card
Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter
 
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That mobo is an 1151 socket and is not compatible with 5820k or 5930k which are strictly for 2011-3 socket

1151 and 6700k is probably the way forward. It's still a very powerful processor, consumes less power and if you do find yourself ever needing more it's upgradeable. The only change I would make to that setup is if you're going for the 960 get the 4gb version. Also I'm not a Corsair PSU officianado but people have said that RMx or RMi are the more solid models, that or I can suggest the EVGA supernova G2 which is what I chose (dont know if they still do it but mine came with a 10yr warranty)
 
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The Evga G2 550/650 have 7 yr warranty, the 750+ has 10 yr. Same OEM, SuperFlower, just slightly different component choices. Obviously you don't need 750w capable caps on a 550w psu.

The 1st Gen RM were actually very good performers, easily the equal of any Seasonic in build quality and performance, their issue was bad thermal properties which had a hard time with full load heat. The 750/850 being the worst design. The RMi is the same basic design, but thermal issues have been fixed and the RMx is a step up on quality, performance and design. I'm not a Corsair fan either, but the newer RM are decent. Just be careful which model you get, ppl will still have old stock they'll want to sell off, probably at a good price.

You are looking at a gtx960. You don't need anything larger than a 550w psu. Recommended wattage is 430w, so a 750 is more than overkill, its efficiency homicide. Psu's generally reach peak efficiency at @50-70%, a 750w psu will be looking at 20-30% loads which is usually the worst efficiency area.

I'd sacrifice the sound card for a 950Pro M.2 NVMe SSD 512Gb vrs the older 850. If you are going to go with the newer system, use it right or you will be better off with the 5820 on a 2011-3 platform.
 
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