Wireless vs powerline solution for a house(ground and 1 story)

stefandragos · Nov 28, 2015

Hello! I'm facing a problem with my internet setup and i'm hoping you will help me choose the best solution.
I live in a house with ground floor and one story and the internet cable from my provider is located on the upper floor. Currently i have the internet wire inserted in a protection tube along the wall from the entering spot, through the first hallway, crossing a secondary hallway and into my room to the wireless router which then connected to my PC via ethernet (see sketch). I also have another router located on ground floor which extends my wireless network for my smart tv and whichever device i wish to connect.
What i want is to remove the wire routing and connect to the internet either wireless or via a powerline adapter. Which would be better?

sketch is here: http://imgur.com/Ns6ZTDC

USAFRet · Nov 28, 2015

In terms of performance, decreasing:

ethernet cable directly from the router
powerline

wifi

WiFi is that far down, because it is the LAST connection type you should consider.

USAFRet · Nov 28, 2015

"see sketch"

There is no image.
Can you make and post a drawing of your entire network, proposed or current...

stefandragos · Nov 28, 2015

with wires: http://imgur.com/y87RFvB

USAFRet · Nov 28, 2015

Well...WiFi should only be used if there is NO other option, or you are aesthetically freaked out about wires.

You current situation is (mostly) the best option. That second 'router' is probably not needed.
Second option? Powerline. But you still might need some sort of WiFi at the far end to provide signal to those devices which are 'WiFi only'.

And some of the powerline devices also propagate a WiFi signal.
However, powerline performance depends on the quality of your house wiring.

stefandragos · Nov 28, 2015

I can power a router at the entry point of the internet cable and use an wireless adapter/wireless network card on my PC or plug a powerline adapter in the same spot i would power the router and the second powerline adapter i could plug in my room and then into the router. Question is what are the requirements for powerline adapter based networks?

L.E. I have an aluminium based electrical wiring(old house) and the walls are thick(2 layers of brick). Honestly i don't have that much money to spend on cutting edge hardware and i'm trying to decide if i should buy to powerline adapters or a wireless adapter for the PC. I also hate wires

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USAFRet · Nov 28, 2015

I have an aluminium based electrical wiring(old house) and the walls are thick(2 layers of brick).

This bodes badly for powerline AND WiFi.

The only way to know whether a particular powerline device works in your house is to try it.

stefandragos · Nov 28, 2015

Yeah..... So i would have better luck with wifi "channeling" than with powerline adapters? For around 40 dollars i could buy a pair of TP-LINK TL-PA4010KIT or for less a wireless adapter/ network card

USAFRet · Nov 28, 2015

stefandragos :

Whatever you buy, buy it from somewhere that has a strong 30 day return policy. In case it doesn't work in your house.

Solandri · Nov 28, 2015

The omnidirectional "whip" antennas found on most wifi routers aren't truly omnidirectional. They project an omnidirectional signal in the horizontal axis. Their signal in the vertical axis is highly dependent on direction, with almost no signal being transmitted straight up/down.

http://www.l-com.com/multimedia/diagrams/d_HGV-2406U_2.gif

This can be mitigated somewhat by tilting one of the antennas so the signal from the router on the upper floor intersects the receiver on the ground floor. But trying to get wifi to work on several floors is generally not recommended. That is why USAFRet listed it as the worst possible choice for connection.

Also be aware that while British English calls a 2-story building a ground floor and first floor, in U.S. English they are called the first floor and second floor. The way you wrote your question in British English initially sounds to a U.S. reader like you live in both a 1-story house.

If powerline does not work and you have coax (cable TV cable) installed in the walls, you can try MoCA adapters. If that's not an option, I would try directional wifi bridges next. They're still reasonably priced. Start off with just one aimed at your main router upstairs. If that doesn't work, you can try two aimed at each other.
http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-NanoStation-locoM2-2-4GHz-Outdoor/dp/B004EGI3CI
http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-LOCOM5-NanoStation-loco-M5/dp/B004EHSV4W

As a last resort, you can buy a VDSL extender kit. They will run your network signal over the phone line already inside your home. Unfortunately they are the priciest option. And you will also need DSL filters on all your other phone outlets in use.
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-VDSL2-Ethernet-Extender-Single/dp/B002CLKFTG

stefandragos · Nov 28, 2015

Solandri :

The omnidirectional "whip" antennas found on most wifi routers aren't truly omnidirectional. They project an omnidirectional signal in the horizontal axis. Their signal in the vertical axis is highly dependent on direction, with almost no signal being transmitted straight up/down.

http://www.l-com.com/multimedia/diagrams/d_HGV-2406U_2.gif

This can be mitigated somewhat by tilting one of the antennas so the signal from the router on the upper floor intersects the receiver on the ground floor. But trying to get wifi to work on several floors is generally not recommended. That is why USAFRet listed it as the worst possible choice for connection.

Also be aware that while British English calls a 2-story building a ground floor and first floor, in U.S. English they are called the first floor and second floor. The way you wrote your question in British English initially sounds to a U.S. reader like you live in both a 1-story house.

If powerline does not work and you have coax (cable TV cable) installed in the walls, you can try MoCA adapters. If that's not an option, I would try directional wifi bridges next. They're still reasonably priced. Start off with just one aimed at your main router upstairs. If that doesn't work, you can try two aimed at each other.
http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-NanoStation-locoM2-2-4GHz-Outdoor/dp/B004EGI3CI
http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-LOCOM5-NanoStation-loco-M5/dp/B004EHSV4W

As a last resort, you can buy a VDSL extender kit. They will run your network signal over the phone line already inside your home. Unfortunately they are the priciest option. And you will also need DSL filters on all your other phone outlets in use.
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-VDSL2-Ethernet-Extender-Single/dp/B002CLKFTG

Coax and phone line wires/connectivity is out of the question because i don't have the house "wired" like that.
Thank you for your input! Also my english is not that great and i'm glad that you understood what i meant through my writing. I will be more careful when i write.

stefandragos · Nov 28, 2015

USAFRet :

stefandragos :

Whatever you buy, buy it from somewhere that has a strong 30 day return policy. In case it doesn't work in your house.

Agreed! Thank you!

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