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I've been thinking about building a PC for the first time for a while now. So, over the last week I've gathered a few parts. Keep in mind, I don't want to go over 1000€.

CPU: Intel Core i5 4460
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX
RAM: 8GB DDR3
Case: Cooler Master N300
GPU: MSI GTX 970 4GB GDDR5
PSU: Thermaltake Berlin 630W
HDD: Toshiba 1 TB SATA 6 GB/s
SSD: Sandisk 32GB
CPU cooler: Scythe lori
OS: Windows 8.1

Current total: 964€

Further info:
The SSD is meant solely for the operating system. I already own a display, keyboard and mouse.

Questions:
1. Are all parts compatible?
2. Is the CPU cooler really needed?
3. Is the SSD worth it, or should I spend the 30€ on something else?
4. Are there any other components I should buy with the remaining money?

Thank you in advance for all the answers, and thanks for taking the time to read this thread! :)

- Josh :D
 
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http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
http://powersupplycalculator.net/
http://www.corsair.com/en/psu-finder

Consider a CPU is probably 125w max.
Your card is 145w max.

Your motherboard will use a bit as well, probably not more than 100w for sure, I think it's more in the 30w range.

DVD drives are almost negligible, SSDs don't really even count. Your memory will suck down a couple volts per stick as well. Could that PSU work? Probably. Wouldn't hurt to get at least a 500w as the price is nearly the same. 600-650w's aren't that costly either. @750w they start to go up in price it seems. What I would do is probably get a 600w or so and make sure it's rated for 80+ Bronze or better.

Just remember that 1 volt x ampere =...
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Windows 8? You'd be better off with Windows 7 or 10. Here in the US we can "upgrade" (and I say that with anguish) to Windows 10 for free. I think it's the same there. Windows 8 was pretty much designed for a Tablet and lacks DirectX 12 so you may as well get Windows 10 if they are comparable in price. I have Win7 Pro on all my systems but my laptop and prefer it (that's about 12 copies).
 
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You didn't list much about your RAM but I would assume it's compatible. Are you planning to use that tiny SSD as a cache drive for the 1TB HDD? Smart. I prefer Western Digital Blue drives myself - or the WD Black if you want to spend a bit more although I personally don't feel the cost is justified. They're good drives; quiet, reputable, and fast. If you don't plan on doing any major overclocking the CPU cooler is probably overkill. I know that Newegg.com here has some very good coolers for around $20 or so that will allow a modest OC without problem. Looks like a pretty balanced system - which is generally what I shoot for but I tend to shop in the mid, to lower mid-ranged parts and play games that are $10 instead of $60. I go for the most bang for the buck but not so weak it can't handle most modern games at 1080P.
 
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First off, thanks for your quick reply!
Honestly, I don't know much about SSDs. I was going to put the Windows version on it, as I know that Windows takes up less than 20 GB. I chose Windows 8.1, because I think that some games don't work with Win10, i.e. Fallout 3. RAM is Crucial Ballistix Sport series 2x4GB, which is about to go on sale on amazon.de in a few hours, so I might just grab that today :p

Edit: Oh and for the HDD, I just took the one that cost less, but WD are pretty inexpensive too, so I might grab one of those.
 
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Thanks! I'll keep it in mind, even though I don't fully understand it ;)
I read a little about ESD, but the ASRock H97 Anniversary seems to have surge protection, i.e. through lightning.

Also, I've updated my component list a little to fit my budget better.
*PSU: Seasonic 430W S12II Bronze
*CPU Cooler: - removed -
*OS: Windows 10 64-bit
*HDD: WD Blue 1TB
(For clarity)*GPU: MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC 4GB, not the 4G Gaming version

Without SSD, that would be a total of ~900€.

If you find the time, could you try your best to answer these questions?
- Is a 32GB for the OS worth it, or should I get at least 64GB? Like I said, I really don't know much about SSDs.
- I checked pcpartpicker.com and the power supply seems to be sufficient, pcpartpicker listing it at ~330W. However, I've heard that you should buy a PSU with a little extra wattage than what you actually need. Is the Seasonic 430W enough?

Thank you tons for all the replies you've already posted, you're a big help! :D

- Josh :)
 
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I was pretty sure your PSU wouldn't work, either not providing enough juice or not having the proper PCI-E connectors. But it does have two 6-pins and the load draw of that video card is only 145w max so you should be fine.
 
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I just tried out the Newegg PSU Wattage calculator, and it told me my recommended PSU Wattage would be 652W. What should I go for?
 
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http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
http://powersupplycalculator.net/
http://www.corsair.com/en/psu-finder

Consider a CPU is probably 125w max.
Your card is 145w max.

Your motherboard will use a bit as well, probably not more than 100w for sure, I think it's more in the 30w range.

DVD drives are almost negligible, SSDs don't really even count. Your memory will suck down a couple volts per stick as well. Could that PSU work? Probably. Wouldn't hurt to get at least a 500w as the price is nearly the same. 600-650w's aren't that costly either. @750w they start to go up in price it seems. What I would do is probably get a 600w or so and make sure it's rated for 80+ Bronze or better.

Just remember that 1 volt x ampere = 1 watt. Another way to say it is that volts times amps = watts. This is handy when figuring out something like whether or not a 15amp outlet will be able to support 3 computers or not. You figure out the wattage of your computer's power draw, and then multiply the 15amp circuit by your 115volts. Make sense?
 
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So, I've decided to go with the Seasonic S12II Bronze, but instead of the 430W version the 520W version. That should be enough to feed my system. Now comes the buying part of the whole process..

Once again, thanks for helping me out!

- Josh :D
 
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No problem. Just remembrr though that if you do decide to get a beefier card you will need more power. But in a year or two just buy a new PSU and keep that one for a backup. I can never have enough PSUs laying around, as they die or I help someone out with a replacement.
 
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