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Here is my first build just a few things left to purchase now let me know what you think.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4RbG99
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4RbG99/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($359.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Silverstone TD02-E 92.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Cooling MX4 4g Thermal Paste (Purchased For $8.03)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM EDITION ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (Purchased For $273.66)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (Purchased For $96.99)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($96.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $96.37)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+ Video Card (Purchased For $673.31)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $96.40)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $84.99)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $20.48)
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F140SP_BK 82.1 CFM 140mm Fan (Purchased For $19.99)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor (Purchased For $228.05)
Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow Chroma Wired Gaming Keyboard ($147.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Logitech G303 Daedalus Apex Wired Optical Mouse (Purchased For $27.14)
Total: $2389.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I don't plan on doing any Sli config in the future so I went with a power supply I thought would handle the load without being overkill since going that route is not a good idea I debated on the 750w as well but after getting some advise I think the 650w will work. My system should not even reach 500w once completed. Let me know what you think if there is something I am missing or should have done better, I am a big fan of constructive criticism we all gotta learn somehow. Thanks in advance!!
 
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I would say return that. You do not, nor will you ever need that much wattage for SLI. A...
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Mark_1970

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I run a 1500w psu with a pc that only needs 450w, just why is this not a good idea? anybody?
 
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These are some of my reasoning's behind why I said that what I did. Overall I don't think in any way it will hurt your system I think if you have plans for future additions it is great but I see it mostly as a waste in my case as I don't ever plan to run an SLI. If the time comes I will just upgrade to a better single card. Although I am yet to put my system together so I hope that when I do the downsizing from the 850w or the 750w to the 650w power supply wont bite me in the ace. lol Sorry in advance but I like these guys.

JayzTwoCents
https://youtu.be/LiWThqgFfI4
Linus-TechQuickie
https://youtu.be/lqThn3C-zg4
Toms Hardware Post
http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2150235/choose-perfe...
 
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I run a 1500w psu with a pc that only needs 450w, just why is this not a good idea? anybody?
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It is not a good idea unless you plan on adding two or three graphics cards. Most systems won't even come close to using that kind of power.

Oh god don't get me started on JayZTwoCents - we moderators are not too fond of him and find his testing methods very questionable.

That build looks pretty good but a couple of things:

1. You do not need additional thermal compound - that is a waste of money. Same with the extra case fan. If it's not too late you can probably return those things.
2. There's better coolers that you can get, and if it's your first time, don't go with a liquid loop. Go air instead.
3. If gaming is the primary interest, you will never need or use 32GB of RAM, you're just throwing that extra $100 away.
4. Return that PSU and get a P2 1000W EVGA model - on that budget you should leave the option open for SLI. If not then you are doing it wrong.

This is what you should do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($439.95 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM EDITION ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($296.95 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($95.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($182.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.75 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($649.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($186.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2129.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-02 10:51 EST-0500

 
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That is why i got my 1500w Enermax Platimax GT, for future sli. that and it basically only cost the postage for the psu (new) :)
They say this psu is happy run at only 0.5w draw. I know others do have problems with this though
The only bad reason i am aware of is that efficiency is not so good. at 80% load on psu it has 95% efficiency on this psu, at 25% load it's 85% efficiency , meaning all it takes from the wall, 15% was wasted. 85% is still fine though, not worried about a few dollars every few months wasted on power. Other factors are more important to me.

I like the fact that the psu will never be strained and will extend it's life
 
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A few questions why do I need to plan for ever doing SLI?
and if I don't why would I be doing it wrong?
Do you think I should upgrade to a Platinum PSU? I thought gold was pretty good although I debated this for sometime.

I oversee and operate a large irrigation and domestic drinking water district we run a million dollar power bill a year. The biggest thing I think about through the year is how I can save power and how to be more energy efficient. So this is hard for me to get past in my mind. If I ever do plan to SLI I will buy a bigger power supply in the future and sell mine down the line to a buddy.

The compound was for this build as well as for another I plan to do with a friend. I am also tearing apart an old laptop and thought it would be better to have the proper tools on hand than need it in the middle of something. I figured 8$ for a small tube was not a bad deal and if I don't use it I could always send it back then. Amazon is usually pretty easy with that sorta thing.

The build is also for looks as much as it is for performance so I added the extra fan plus extra cooling I don't think ever hurt. Many of my parts are a little overkill due to my vain purchase of wanting this build to also look good. This is also where the liquid cooling comes in I absolutely hate the way air cooled machines look covering up the mother board especially the MSI Z170A XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM EDITION ATX LGA1151 that thing is just gorgeous lol. Plus I figured I have been basically an insanely over qualified plumber for the last 10 years of my life I think I can deal with a little liquid cooler.

I will be gaming and video editing some rendering, engineering prints and plans and designs and a few other things as well. Plus the wife can shop and multitask like no other and she waits for no man or machine lol bad joke.

And speaking of JayzTwoCents I like Jay because he is hilarious to me for one and he seems to be pretty legit and straight forward which I like he will tell you that those are his opinions and to not take his word for everything. I always get multiple opinions and research things to death before pulling the trigger on things. I just think he is a good guy trying his best and has some good knowledge to share, but no one should ever take any one persons opinion to heart and believe everything they say. For my entertainment purposes I hope Jay keeps on going. lol

Anyways love the feedback. Hope some of my explanation helps with my reasons I went with some of these parts.
 
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I would say return that. You do not, nor will you ever need that much wattage for SLI. A dual 980TI build will use at max somewhere between 670W - 760W, maybe closer to 800W if you plan on overclocking. Maybe if you're going 3 or 4 way SLI, you could potentially need that much. But on a Z170 build you don't. 1KW would be the max I would go. EVGA P2 or Corsair HXi would be your best bets if you want to change out the PSU.

A few questions why do I need to plan for ever doing SLI?
and if I don't why would I be doing it wrong?
Do you think I should upgrade to a Platinum PSU? I thought gold was pretty good although I debated this for sometime.

I oversee and operate a large irrigation and domestic drinking water district we run a million dollar power bill a year. The biggest thing I think about through the year is how I can save power and how to be more energy efficient. So this is hard for me to get past in my mind. If I ever do plan to SLI I will buy a bigger power supply in the future and sell mine down the line to a buddy.
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Energy efficiency ratings are kind of meaningless. They don't really tell you how a power supply is going to perform or save energy, or do they really tell you about the build quality of said power supply. I've seen some terrible units that are platinum rated, and some excellent ones that are bronze rated. It's kind of a crapshoot unless you know what power supply you're buying and the OEM behind it. And the thing is - going "bigger" on the power supply is also kind of pointless. In the old days you could easily max out a 1500W power supply, but things are actually going in the opposite direction. Things are getting more energy efficient. And builds are also getting smaller, not bigger. Micro ATX and mini ITX are actually the wave of the future compared to giant EATX towers in the past.

To answer your questions about graphics cards though - a $2K or more build should at least have the option for SLI or Crossfire. Monitor resolution is very rapidly rising. Older processors and graphics cards will struggle to keep up with the latest monitor resolutions. If you want to run 4K a single 980TI is recommended for the minimum. But if you want to add displays or go VR, it'd be pointless not to at least plan for that.

The compound was for this build as well as for another I plan to do with a friend. I am also tearing apart an old laptop and thought it would be better to have the proper tools on hand than need it in the middle of something. I figured 8$ for a small tube was not a bad deal and if I don't use it I could always send it back then. Amazon is usually pretty easy with that sorta thing.
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OK point taken there.

The build is also for looks as much as it is for performance so I added the extra fan plus extra cooling I don't think ever hurt. Many of my parts are a little overkill due to my vain purchase of wanting this build to also look good. This is also where the liquid cooling comes in I absolutely hate the way air cooled machines look covering up the mother board especially the MSI Z170A XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM EDITION ATX LGA1151 that thing is just gorgeous lol. Plus I figured I have been basically an insanely over qualified plumber for the last 10 years of my life I think I can deal with a little liquid cooler.
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Yeah I totally get that. The thing is there's no difference between large air coolers and Asetek coolers. Just about all of them come off the same assembly line and just about all of them use the same radiator - doesn't matter if you use Corsair, Silverstone, NZXT, Enermax, Cooler Master, I could go on and on. Really the only difference between most 120mm and 140mm radiators is the logo on the CPU block. If you can pull off a custom loop I'm totally for that. That XPOWER board looks sweet, I do agree there, I would like to get that for my own system, but I can't exactly afford something like that at the moment.

And speaking of JayzTwoCents I like Jay because he is hilarious to me for one and he seems to be pretty legit and straight forward which I like he will tell you that those are his opinions and to not take his word for everything. I always get multiple opinions and research things to death before pulling the trigger on things. I just think he is a good guy trying his best and has some good knowledge to share, but no one should ever take any one persons opinion to heart and believe everything they say. For my entertainment purposes I hope Jay keeps on going. lol
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We're not doubting JayZTwoCents as a person, we're just saying that we find some of his testing methods to be a bit on the questionable side that's all. I wouldn't rely on that as your only source for doing research on CPU and GU performance.
 
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I built a Enthoo Evolv mATX 5820k, Micro 2, 980 ti sc+, 32GB, 950 pro m.2 512GB with 650w G2. Awesome performance, renders 4K very well. Couldn't be happier, although I am not trying to win game tournaments and make a blockbuster movie with it. There is such thing as overkill, and mine is just that for me but maybe not for someone else.
 
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