Recording Gaming without Capture Card?

EvilByTheNugget · Dec 3, 2015

Me and my friend want to start a gaming channel where we want to play old games and review them (Quake, Painkiller, DMC franchise,etc.), and we need a video capture method (Excluding putting a camera in front the screen, because that's just lazy). But, I'm worried that the channel might not be as successful, and buying a capture card would be expensive and a waste of money if the channel goes bad. But, I have been looking, and I found a youtube video where if you put Y splitters into your RCA cable (Red,White,Yellow) port, plug in your PS3 (that's what I have) or Xbox 360 and a Camcorder into the splitters (plugging in camcorder w/ RCA to 3.5 mm cord), it will record with the camera. But, I want to know if I can plug it into my computer (via USB) to monitor,save, and edit the recording. Also, my brother keeps saying that the RCA cables only upscale to 480p. But, I have seen tutorials where people went into the video settings on the PS3, changed the source to RCA, then upscale it to 1080p. So, is this a good alternative?

P.S. If I can monitor it on my PC, what software do I use?

kanewolf · Dec 3, 2015

RCA video (red, white, yellow) will only go to 480. If you are only doing composite video (red, white, yellow) you could get an inexpensive USB capture device. Here is one for $9 -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1GK3542771 I have NO idea of the quality of the device or software but you can get 480 video capture relatively cheaply.

Illydth · Dec 3, 2015

I will concur with this. I did a bunch of research on this a few years ago when looking for a new TV:

* HDMI / DVI Wil do 1080p and all existing content.
* Component (That's Red/Green/Blue NOT Red/White/Yellow) will reach 1080p, but the specification generally only allows reaching 1080i. In other words, the cables themselves will support 1080p but most sending devices will not support sending 1080p over component.
* Composite (That's Red/White/Yellow) will ONLY do upto 480p (Old DVD Spec).

Upconverting or upscaling is a different story, upconverting is where you take a signal that is being sent in a smaller format (such as 480i or p) and make it into a larger format (such as 720p, 1080i or 1080p) by in essence duplicating pixels through an algorithm. In this case, the video LOOKS like it's running at a higher resolution (it has the same crispness due to the larger number of pixels being displayed) but that's due to some advanced math; not actually because you're recording at the higher resolution.

EvilByTheNugget · Dec 4, 2015

Is there a way I can capture 1080p with this method? Can I record using HDMI without HDCP tracking it and blocking it?

Chayan4400 · Dec 4, 2015

Look for a decent used Avermedia or Diamond Game Caster on Ebay. They go for around $60-80.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Avermedia-LGP-Lite-USB-Capture-Card-/191752614361?hash=item2ca558b1d9:g:0ToAAOSwp5JWYU9c

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AverMedia-Live-Gamer-HD-Capture-Card-Stream/111838293644?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3Dc1bee427483f49218d11d168eeb26528%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D191752614361

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AverMedia-LGP-LITE-GL310-/262168906680?hash=item3d0a7c0bb8:g:cFMAAOSwcBhWXIxj

http://www.ebay.com/itm/gamer-portable-c875-input-avermedia-/321938057279?hash=item4af500e83f:g:sscAAOSwcBhWYAh~

QuadRings · Dec 4, 2015

Thing is though, I know this guy. Any Cap Card would have to work with an E300. Those ideas still work on that core or no?

EvilByTheNugget · Dec 4, 2015

Illydth :

Will my method with the RCA splitters make it look to wide screen and pixely if I upscale? I know I can upscale in a video editor. If I do this in a video editor, will it stay to 16:9 or will it somehow downscale to 4:3 aspect ratio?

Chayan4400 · Dec 5, 2015

Converting the 4:3 to 16:9 will make the image look stretched. Even upscaling isn't going to help there. You need to capture in at least 720p, or 1080p for the best results.

What is the exact specs of the PC we are talking about? Or if it is an OEM PC what is the model number?

QuadRings · Dec 5, 2015

Again, I know what he has. In fact, I have the same model.

HP BF69WM
4GB RAM
5400RPM HDD
AMD E300 Dual Core 1.3 GHz processor
Radeon HD6310

Chayan4400 · Dec 6, 2015

Wait a minute, we're talking about a laptop here?

Sorry to break it to you, but most of the capture cards aren't going to work - they need to be used in a desktop. Also, what games are you planning to play? With that laptop, which is essentially equal to a laptop Intel Pentium and HD Graphics, you aren't going to be able to play much. It is woefully underpowered for handling game recording and gaming at the same time, even with older games.

If you must, however, then this is your only option:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Avermedia-LGP-Lite-USB-Capture-Card-/191752614361?hash=item2ca558b1d9:g:0ToAAOSwp5JWYU9c

QuadRings · Dec 6, 2015

He said to me to post since Im online. The ONLY game he is SUPPOSED to play on PC, is Quake and MOH Airborne, the former with a few shaders. Everything else is on a PS3. Not sure about MOH, But I think plain old Quake'd work with a recorder. Maybe not

His point in all this was that he wanted to record to a camera via composite cables, so itd be like its own little capture card. Maybe even use component

EvilByTheNugget · Feb 23, 2016

bump

Wait, if use a hdmi spilter, a mini hdmi to standard hdmi, plug a PS3 in the Xbox one (TV app), will I be able to record ps3? (Plus anything else?)

EvilByTheNugget · Feb 24, 2016

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