GTX 960 4gb Cant run BF3 at ultra at 60fps?

JaJochem · Dec 4, 2015

Hi guys, Yesterday I bought a new GPU, The MSI GTX 960 4GB. I was happy like a little child because for me it meant I could play one of my favourite games Battlefield 3 at Ultra at 60 fps. (Thinking a 960 with 4gb could easily do that?) And I set all my setting to the max, and i am not getting above 45 fps? Which in my eyes is really weird because the 960 is a fairly new GPU and BF3 a pretty old game? Does anyone know how to fix this or is this just because the GPU lacks power? This are my pc specs. (I overclocked nothing)
AMD FX-8320 Black Edition 3.5 GHZ
16 GB of DDR3 RAM
MSI GAMING GTX 960 4GB
MSI GAMING 970 Motherboard
500 W powersupply.

Kind regards, Jochem

Hawkshot · Dec 4, 2015

the GTX 960 just doesn't have enough power, that card is used to play games at 1080 on medium to high setting not ultra, if you wanted ultra setting you should of got the GTX 970, I'm really not meaning to sounds rude its just the way things are the 4GB GTX 960 is an outstanding card for the price it costs but its too slow to get you ultra at 1080p. Its a good card you will just need to scale things back a little bit to get 60fps

JaJochem · Dec 4, 2015

Hawkshot :

Thanks dude!, Guess I shouldn't be such a ''I want everything at ultra'' whore

maxalge · Dec 4, 2015

JaJochem :

a lot of the time "ultra" isn't even worth it, you give up a lot of fps for minimal gains that are not even apparent when you play.

tweaking is the smart man's sport.

stl522013 · Dec 4, 2015

You could get an R9 380X for only $230. It is better than the R9 280X and the 280X can max BF4 at 56 fps.

Hawkshot · Dec 4, 2015

stl522013 :

while this is true he would also have to upgrade his PSU to support that card as the R9 280x takes a ton of power + his FX-8320 which already eats 125W and 16GB doesn't come at a low consumption cost either, and as previously stated running games at high vs ultra offers very little in visual effects all this does is usually increase view distance/ turn on detailed shadows and maybe increase the textures on somethings but the difference is usually no where near as big as the jump from medium to high.

stl522013 · Dec 4, 2015

Hawkshot :

That is why I suggested the 380X. The refreshed architecture uses less power. The R9 380 is also a good option. It is a little better than the GTX 960, and will be better for DX12.

Hawkshot · Dec 4, 2015

stl522013 :

yes sorry I didn't see the 380x suggestion it does consume around 50-60W less than the r9 280x which is pretty nice and the performance difference between the R9 380x and GTX 960 is very minimal, depending on the game depends on what one is better some the R9 will win and other the GTX will win its really a bit of a punch for punch fight between the 2 and from all benchmarks I have seen the R9 380x is only really capable of getting around 45 FPS on BF4 rather than the 56fps you stated, here are some benchmarks to show im not talking out my arse.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9784/the-amd-radeon-r9-380x-review/4

stl522013 · Dec 4, 2015

Hawkshot :

stl522013 :

yes sorry I didn't see the 380x suggestion it does consume around 50-60W less than the r9 280x which is pretty nice and the performance difference between the R9 380x and GTX 960 is very minimal, depending on the game depends on what one is better some the R9 will win and other the GTX will win its really a bit of a punch for punch fight between the 2 and from all benchmarks I have seen the R9 380x is only really capable of getting around 45 FPS on BF4 rather than the 56fps you stated, here are some benchmarks to show im not talking out my arse.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9784/the-amd-radeon-r9-380x-review/4

I guess the benchmark I saw may have been wrong. I tihink they may have overclocked the card.

JaJochem · Dec 4, 2015

stl522013 :

Hawkshot :

stl522013 :

yes sorry I didn't see the 380x suggestion it does consume around 50-60W less than the r9 280x which is pretty nice and the performance difference between the R9 380x and GTX 960 is very minimal, depending on the game depends on what one is better some the R9 will win and other the GTX will win its really a bit of a punch for punch fight between the 2 and from all benchmarks I have seen the R9 380x is only really capable of getting around 45 FPS on BF4 rather than the 56fps you stated, here are some benchmarks to show im not talking out my arse.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9784/the-amd-radeon-r9-380x-review/4

I guess the benchmark I saw may have been wrong. I tihink they may have overclocked the card.

I know my MSI gtx 960 is also good for overclocking, Im new to the overclocking ''cult'' but how much performance improvement does overclocking actually have for your gpu?

Hawkshot · Dec 4, 2015

it depends you should be able to get another 10% without a problem on heat but anytime you overclock always make sure you run a stress test for 12-24 hours after performing the overclock to make sure it all works without fault

JaJochem · Dec 4, 2015

Hawkshot :

I actually think that you are wrong my friend. I just ran my BF3 at low, and I get the exact same FPS (48 to 50) as when I am playing on Ultra, Is there something wrong with my setting perhaps?

stl522013 · Dec 4, 2015

JaJochem :

Check your CPU temps and usage. What is your Anti-Aliasing set to?

JaJochem · Dec 4, 2015

stl522013 :

I always have my GPU and CPU Temps on my second screen, I try to keep my CPU under 50°
Playing at Ultra
Cpu Frequency: 3800 MHz
CPU Fan 3333 RPM
CPU Temp 46 °
CPU voltage 0,001 V
CPU usage 68%
DRAM Frequency 2666MHz
DRAM usage 42%
VRAM Frequency 3505 MHz
VRAM usage 49%
GPU Temp 49°
GPU frequency 1329 Mhz
GPU usage 67%
GPU fan 0 RPM
GPU volt 12v

These are while playing on low
CPU frequency 3800 MHz
CPU fan 3521 RPM
CPU temp 46°
CPU Voltage 0,001 V
CPU usage 67%
DRAM frequency 2666 MHz
DRAM usage 43%
VRAM frequency 3505 MHz
VRAM Uasge 21%
GPU Temp 47
GPU frequency 1215 Mhz
GPU usage 29%
GPU Fan 0 RPM
GPU volt 1062 V

*Note: I used MSI gaming app to let me show al these things while game, and i recorded with Shadowplay so i could write all these things down xD

JaJochem · Dec 10, 2015

stl522013 :

I always have my GPU and CPU Temps on my second screen, I try to keep my CPU under 50°
Playing at Ultra
Cpu Frequency: 3800 MHz
CPU Fan 3333 RPM
CPU Temp 46 °
CPU voltage 0,001 V
CPU usage 68%
DRAM Frequency 2666MHz
DRAM usage 42%
VRAM Frequency 3505 MHz
VRAM usage 49%
GPU Temp 49°
GPU frequency 1329 Mhz
GPU usage 67%
GPU fan 0 RPM
GPU volt 12v

These are while playing on low
CPU frequency 3800 MHz
CPU fan 3521 RPM
CPU temp 46°
CPU Voltage 0,001 V
CPU usage 67%
DRAM frequency 2666 MHz
DRAM usage 43%
VRAM frequency 3505 MHz
VRAM Uasge 21%
GPU Temp 47
GPU frequency 1215 Mhz
GPU usage 29%
GPU Fan 0 RPM
GPU volt 1062 V

*Note: I used MSI gaming app to let me show al these things while game, and i recorded with Shadowplay so i could write all these things down xD

JaJochem · Dec 11, 2015

I got it guys, The settings in the Nvidia Configuration menu were still set on my old GPU, I resetted them to default, and checked the box ''Let 3d application decide'' and now im playing it 60 fps on ultra with 4x msaa

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