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cheesebagels

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Hi,

Been doing lots of research and have managed to get some components together which should give me a good performance for a small price. Just wanted to know if there's anything else I should change before I spend £400 on all of this as I don't really know what I'm doing!
My parts are the following:

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/sLWHCJ

Thanks for your help in advance :)
 
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Your first build wasn't that bad,the FX 6300 is still a decent cpu especially when you can overclock it,which you can on that motherboard,but it hasn't great upgrade possibilities.
The i3 mentioned is a dualcore,but has hyper threading which gives it four virtual cores which will be used by games.It's not as good as a real quadcore but comes close depending a games cpu dependency.For the upgrade possibility and games liking faster better is it probably the best choice.
Adapted the i3 build a bit to get an imo better psu in,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£85.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150...
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SteffanDavies

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* Have you factored a computer case?
* In terms of CPU, I prefer Intel unless you are going to be using multi-core processing or anything of the sort.
* Get a cheaper AM3+ board for 40/45£ and get a GTX 960 instead.
 
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Yeah I've had to borrow an old horrible white case from my parents so that I can fit in an ATX mobo to get a better power delivery to the CPU. Yeah I was a little torn on the CPU choice, I do only intend to be gaming but the FX 6300 seemed to be the best performance to price ratio I could get as its only about £80 at the moment.
 
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If it's only for gaming, then I advise an Intel (even if it's a cheap Pentium or I3). You can always upgrade later to and I5 but that shouldn't be necessary, i'm still gaming on a 2008 Core 2 Quad.
 
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If its for gaming the i3 has better single threaded performance, which is favoured in games. But the AMD has better multi-threaded performance. In terms of raw power, the AMD probably has it, but you will not get games benefiting from the 6 cores. The upgrade options available without changing the motherboard with the i3 are much better also, here's something to think over: (changed PSU to lower wattage)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£85.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£67.91 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£32.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£29.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 950 2GB Dual WindForce Video Card (£127.69 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic ECO 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£34.98 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £379.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-05 12:34 GMT+0000
 
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Try this for 363£, you even get a nice GTX 960 GPU!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor (£51.96 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.95 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: MSI H97M-E35 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£59.17 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£27.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£29.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card (£144.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£29.99 @ Aria PC)
Total: £369.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-05 17:02 GMT+0000
 
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With the G3258 and a GTX 960 you will start to see bottlenecking by the CPU, but this can be combated by overclocking but for that you'd need an adequate CPU cooler, the stock Intel fan is not up to the job here. Stick with the i3. Also the PSU could be better quality for OC'ing. OP Read this, its comparison between i3, i5 & i7 http://www.techspot.com/review/972-intel-core-i3-vs-i5-vs-i7/
They have also compared AAA games using a GTX 960 between processors, the results are quite remarkable.

If your budget is £400 then this will treat you well:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£85.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.80 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£34.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£29.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card (£144.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic ECO 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£34.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £395.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Wouldn't it be preferable to invest in a decent cooler (212 EVO) and overclock the Pentium? It should outperform the i3, much better value... In the future there is always the possibility of upgrading to an I5 when Broadwell drop in price next gen.

Also i've heard most G3258 can get over 4Ghz on stock cooling without problems.

What's wrong with EVGA PSU?

PS: I took a look at the benchmarks comparison you posted, frame difference for GTX 960 between processors is about 1fps...
 
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This can be a true statement, but before that we must wait until Cheesebagles tells us what he prefers, overclocking the Pentium might not appeal to some people.

For overclocking a CPU you really need a decent enough quality power supply to back it up, refer to here: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

-Yes the results are quite surprising, goes to show that for a gaming rig you should be sinking most of you cash into GPU. A GPU approximately twice the price your processor can be a good judgement when picking parts.
 
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Yeah I am open to the idea of overclocking which is why I picked the AMD CPU, figured the performance to price ratio was the best. Is it really better to get a dual core I3 instead? I would prefer to get an I3 over a pentium, just worried about long term wear and tear with a high overclock on those. I'm worried about getting anything without four cores will this not become an issue in the future? I've been using CPU benchmarks for my decision and it seems the AMD is the most powerful but do games not utilise the power properly? Thanks for your help guys would be nice to have a gtx 960!
 
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Your first build wasn't that bad,the FX 6300 is still a decent cpu especially when you can overclock it,which you can on that motherboard,but it hasn't great upgrade possibilities.
The i3 mentioned is a dualcore,but has hyper threading which gives it four virtual cores which will be used by games.It's not as good as a real quadcore but comes close depending a games cpu dependency.For the upgrade possibility and games liking faster better is it probably the best choice.
Adapted the i3 build a bit to get an imo better psu in,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£85.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£52.93 @ More Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£34.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.98 @ Novatech)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card (£144.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£41.99 @ Aria PC)
Total: £395.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-06 12:50 GMT+0000

The motherboard chosen is still a good budget one.

If you can spend abit more than the 400 pounds could you get the latest socket,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£94.48 @ Dabs)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£59.99 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£41.94 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.98 @ Novatech)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card (£144.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£41.99 @ Aria PC)
Total: £418.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-06 12:56 GMT+0000

I would spend that amount more to be on the latest platform,but can't look into your bank account.
 
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