Help in choosing RAM - for a Z97, i3-4170 (& upgrades)

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Greets.

Could you plz recommend 8 GB RAM, for the config below, used for gaming, multimedia, net:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZzPnP6

Sorry for being lame in techy thingies,
the factors I things should be considered:

-future upgrades (max to 32 GB, also to i5 /i7), I guess currently 1x8 GB is OK, as dual channel effects are negligible for my purposes
-quite budget friendly, but long term reliability
-good overall price / value
-suitable CLS / bandwidth
(-low profile?
-XMP?
- etc?)

Must the RAM module be on Mobo / CPU manufacturer's site among supported ones' list?

I am searching here:
https://www.arukereso.hu/memoria-modul-c3577/f:kingston,kapacitas-8-gb,memoria-tipusa-ddr3,memoriakesleltetes-cl-9,single-channel-kiszereles/

and thought of this:
Kingston Savage Memory Red - 8GB Module - DDR3 1866MHz Intel XMP CL9 DIMM
Part Number: HX318C9SR/8
Specs: DDR3 , 1866MHz , CL9 , 1.5V , Unbuffered ,Spec Sheet PDF
Timings: 1866MHz, 9-10-11, 1.5V; 1600MHz, 9-9-9, 1.5V
(http://www.hyperxgaming.com/us/memory/savage)


thanx for reading & perhaps answering.
 
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azaran
Getting above 1600Mhz is dependent on your motherboard, which one do you have? If you have a motherboard that can support faster memory but doesn't, you either have faulty memory or a faulty board. Either way, the likelyhood of you noticing the difference in 1600Nhz and 1866Mhz is pretty slim to none. On the site you mentioned, the difference in the fastest and the slowest RAM that I recommended was around 2 Nanoseconds. Synthetic benchmarks can see the difference, people often can't.

As for doing it stick by stick, this "should" work as long as you get the same make/model/speed RAM. The problem when you don't get kits is that the memory is manufactured at different times. This in theory shouldn't matter but the minor differences in...
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What's your budget? Thats going to be the biggest factor in deciding.
In general these 3 kits would be my recommendations, in order of performance.

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB DDR3 2133 $47.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231689&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB DDR3 2400 $38.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer 8GB DDR3 1866 #39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148554&cm_re=BLT2KIT4G3D1869DT2TXOB-_-20-148-554-_-Product

Keep in mind the differences in these are in the nanoseconds so really you wont notice the difference between any of them. I'd have thrown a DDR3 1600 kit in here but the price of the DDR 1866 kit beat out any of the 1600 kits. I'd go with the Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer 8GB DDR3 1866. The price for performance seems good and of the 3, that kit has the tightest timings.
 
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Many thanx for thy thorough answers,

but I think, I must be seeing far ahead for easy RAM upgrading, thus should buy only one 8 GB RAM, and always another of it till reaching 32GB. Possibly I won't feel too much difference without DualChannel, and hope, will be able to find compatible RAM modules in a few years, too.

So I guess, only factors are DDR3, CL and MHZ which I should keep in mind.

Ripjaws is measured as gold.
Kingston is not recommended?

From Crucial only these are available as 8 GB:
https://www.arukereso.hu/memoria-modul-c3577/f:kapacitas-8-gb,single-channel-kiszereles/?st=Crucial+Ballistix+

hmm, found a very budget priced 2x8 GB!
might it be OK?
https://ipon.hu/webshop/product/hyperx_16gb_savage_ddr3_1866mhz_cl9_kit_hx318c9srk2_16/776490

But for this RAM, a comment says:
with Intel 1150, 1600 MHZ is the most accepted speed, as some dudez reported: they can't use this module at 1866MHZ.
Is it true?
 
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Getting above 1600Mhz is dependent on your motherboard, which one do you have? If you have a motherboard that can support faster memory but doesn't, you either have faulty memory or a faulty board. Either way, the likelyhood of you noticing the difference in 1600Nhz and 1866Mhz is pretty slim to none. On the site you mentioned, the difference in the fastest and the slowest RAM that I recommended was around 2 Nanoseconds. Synthetic benchmarks can see the difference, people often can't.

As for doing it stick by stick, this "should" work as long as you get the same make/model/speed RAM. The problem when you don't get kits is that the memory is manufactured at different times. This in theory shouldn't matter but the minor differences in manufacturing can cause problems.

As for the ram you picked out, I'm not going to recommend doing it stick by stick, and the timings look terrible on that Crucial.

The budget priced 2x8GB dont have great timings and I dont know what the price is for comparisons sake. But Kingston does make good memory, just not as good as Crucial for tight timings

Take a look at this kit, I dont know how it compares to the 2x8GB you have listed in terms of pricing but the timings are better and its a low profile, low voltage kit. I used a 4x8Gb version for this in my own build.
Crucial 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600MHz BLT2C8G3D1608ET3LX0C
https://www.arukereso.hu/memoria-modul-c3577/crucial/16gb-2x8gb-ddr3-1600mhz-blt2c8g3d1608et3lx0c-p150637893/#termek-leiras
 
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I'd go with the 2x8GB set of Savages you found, 16GB should keep you happy for some time to come - as far as 'adding' more later, there's never any guaranteesw when mixing packages of DRAM - even of the same exdact model - the forums are full of threads of people doing this (even buying 2 pairs of 2 stick sets at the same time to save a few bucks over a 4 stick set - and the two sets don't play. Packaged DRAM has been tested to ensure all the sticks in a package play nice - this is needed as you can pull sticks right off the assembly line and they might play - might not ;)
 
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