New PC Build. Help needed

Bubbles_Inc · Dec 9, 2015

I am considering a new build and I would like your opinion on it.

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

I am unsure whether I should get the i7 4790k or get a skylake processor, like the i5 6600k. Also I am wondering are there any cheaper motherboards with similar performance.

logainofhades · Dec 9, 2015

I would go with a 4790k, over a skylake build. MSI Z97 gaming 5 is my typical recommendation, for Z97 board. The price difference may be enough to get a better graphics card, like an R9 390x.

bliq · Dec 9, 2015

if you put this into pcpartpicker.com then we can see what prices you're talking about. From a quick glance, it looks great. Maybe tone down the power supply- you only need maybe 550W. Unless heavy overclocking is in your future.

Bubbles_Inc · Dec 10, 2015

logainofhades :

If I was to up my graphics card to a gtx 980 would you still recommend the R9 390x?

logainofhades · Dec 10, 2015

The 980 and the 390x are about the same performance, but the 390x costs less, so yea.

Victorion · Dec 10, 2015

Glancing at your build it looks like a gaming build, but with priorities at the wrong places.
What I mean, is you could save money and get better gaming performance with priorities around videocard, and less about a very expensive i7 chip and mobo.

Down below a random suggestion, with extreme performance. Overclockable chip and mobo, solid psu. Fast low latency rams.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($76.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($619.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Rosewill Galaxy-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1147.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-10 09:32 EST-0500

Bubbles_Inc · Dec 15, 2015

Victorion :

Glancing at your build it looks like a gaming build, but with priorities at the wrong places.
What I mean, is you could save money and get better gaming performance with priorities around videocard, and less about a very expensive i7 chip and mobo.

Down below a random suggestion, with extreme performance. Overclockable chip and mobo, solid psu. Fast low latency rams.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($76.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($619.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Rosewill Galaxy-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1147.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-10 09:32 EST-0500

Wouldn't that expose me to possible bottlenecking?

logainofhades · Dec 15, 2015

Single channel ram? Not a good recommendation, there. A 4690k would not bottleneck a GTX 980ti.

Bubbles_Inc · Dec 15, 2015

logainofhades :

Okay thanks for you input. Everything will be the same as posted above except the graphics card and possibly mobo.

I think I will get the R9 390 x. I was looking at Sapphire Technology Radeon R9 390X NITRO TRI X OC 8GB GDDR5 PCIe Graphics Card because it is the cheapest where I am (495 euro).

The MSI Radeon R9 390X Gaming 8GB Twin Frozr V FAN DX12 PCI-E 3.0 is 522 euro.

Also could you expand upon the main difference between the gaming 5 board and the Hero VII?

logainofhades · Dec 15, 2015

Huge difference is price. Here is a fairly decent comparison of the two though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627%2050001312%2050001315%20600491547&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=280%7C13-130-770%5E13-130-770%2C13-132-125%5E13-132-125&percm=13-130-770%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B13-132-125%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24

Victorion · Dec 16, 2015

logainofhades :

Single-channel vs Dual-Channel ram only has real influence in workstations, like rendering tasks, simulation and the likes. For gaming it has negliable effect - especially considered DDR-1600 CL9 or better has so ridicously fast performance already, that it won´t matter.
For live streaming games it may be recommended with multichannel ram. Same is true for IGP.

I prefer 1 stick over 2, as its easier to upgrade more rams if needed, consider if:

Mobo has 4 ramslots, and now you want 32 GB
1) you already have 4 x 4 GB ram -> forced to buy 4 x 8 GB stick
2) you already hav 2 x 8 GB -> buy 2 more of same brand and model.

logainofhades · Dec 16, 2015

Single channel is only acceptable, in the event you have a motherboard, with only 2 ram slots, like H81, or practically all mini-ITX boards. 4 slot boards should be setup with dual channel, from the start.

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