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Greetings! Seeing as my HP computer refuses to cooperate with my gtx 750ti, I am now looking at building my own computer within several months to a year. My tentative parts list can be found here: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yYL4Hx
I would like all of you experienced pic builders and what-not to advise me as to what changes I should make. I would like to keep it at or below the current price point without sacrificing much in power. Main task on this computer would be playing new games at high settings. Thank you so much for your help, I look forward to your revisions!

Update 1: I Upgraded the PSU, added an HDD, swapped the m.2 SSD for a cheaper and smaller SATA one, and swapped the $60 blu ray read/write drive out for a much cheaper dvd/cd read/write. Round 2, begin!

Update 2: Swapped out water cooler for Hyper 212 EVO, added another fan.
 
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The csm 550w isn't the best. I would go up to the 650w just to be safe. The evo 212 is a great budget cpu cooler. Not everyone agrees with this, but air coolers are better. It only takes a small hole in the cooling loop to fry your parts.

The m.2 version of the 850 evo will disable one sata express port, so a sata one would be a better choice.

8GBs of ram is plenty for gaming. 16GB is more future proof but not needed. Its really up to you and your computer habits though. Some people find 8GBs plenty, while others consistently max out 32GBs.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($273.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212...
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Firstly, i am assuming you have another HDD to store your games on since 250 GB of SSD alone won't cut it for gaming systems.

Additionally, i would save the $80 from the SSD and get a better GPU like the R9 380X.

Keep in mind that the PSU is poor quality CSM series are Tier 3 which use poor quality components. Since this build is for gaming the following would be excellent choices for the price:
XFX TS
Antec NeoEco
Antec HCG
Seasonic M12II
EVGA GS.

Personal preference, but i would go with the more clean and slick looking Define R5 with excellent noise levels and just an all around excellent mid tower chassis.
 
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The csm 550w isn't the best. I would go up to the 650w just to be safe. The evo 212 is a great budget cpu cooler. Not everyone agrees with this, but air coolers are better. It only takes a small hole in the cooling loop to fry your parts.

The m.2 version of the 850 evo will disable one sata express port, so a sata one would be a better choice.

8GBs of ram is plenty for gaming. 16GB is more future proof but not needed. Its really up to you and your computer habits though. Some people find 8GBs plenty, while others consistently max out 32GBs.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($273.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($156.90 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card ($214.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($92.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($5.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($5.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($5.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1159.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-09 23:57 EST-0500
 
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550W is already an overkill for that system, even a quality 450W unit will do fine for that build even after overclocked.
 
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I totally agree with you, but the thing is that the Corsair CSM series aren't the highest quality. I personally rather an overkill psu than an under-powered computer. Also, it gives you more options for gpu upgrades in the future.
 
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Woops! There's supposed to be an HDD in there...must have forgot after selecting the SSD.
 
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Thank you. I changed the PSU to an antec HCG 520w.

I am not one for "clean and slick." I prefer flashy and eye-catching over quiet (visually) and unobtrusive. The phantom had great reviews, nice look, and decent price.
 
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I figured I would need a water cooler to easily overclock without increasing noise too much. If the only reason you are against water coolers is the risk of damage then that is not quite enough. Millions of people use water coolers with no problem, the risk is too small to really worry about. With a good quality water cooler from a reputable business (I believe my cooler falls in to that category) I don't even need to think about it.

What is so bad about having a SATA port disabled? I believe there are more than enough on that motherboard. M.2 is faster, is it not? Also, I heard skylake works well with m.2 ssd's.

I think I will stick with 16GB just to err on the side of having too much as opposed to having too little.
 
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The risk is still there that they leak. Take a look at this post:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/281843-29-corsair-exploded

Maybe its rare that they leak, but why risk it? Water coolers are over rated. A quality air cooler will do just as well. Water coolers aren't always quiet. If you listen closely, you can actually hear the water inside the loop. Watch this video to the end and see how loud it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTf0Vq1j4Ec

Now watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_mgXEdZ3F4

Also, see this:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/272367-29-tomshardware

Convinced about the fan now?


M.2 is 10GBs, while the traditional sata is 6GBs. So theoretically, the m.2 is faster. But the thing is, in the real world, no ssd is fast enough to saturate sata's 6GBs speed. Even overclocked RAM speeds don't reach that. So speed wise, they're the same. Therefore, m.2 ssds don't have a real advantage. There's nothing too bad about loosing one sata port, but would you rather have one extra sata port or one less?

Now, see what other people say:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2780510/samsung-850-evo.html
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/391247-m2-vs-sata-samsung-850-evo/

I'd recommend 16GBs too, so we agree on that.
 
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Not trying to be completely defensive here, but those parts were fine. Just needed a little spot cleaning and he'd be good.

Again, not trying to refute your arguments entirely, but it seems to me that the water cooler isn't actually louder as you suggest it is. The videos were done on different cameras with different microphones, so they picked up sound differently. Furthermore, the person with the hyper 212 was farther away from the computer. I would say that the water cooler was actually quieter, but since the second person did not include a measure of decibels, I can not say. Perhaps the fan is better for my build, I will look into it later when I have time, but these videos have not entirely convinced me.


Ok, so I'll probably be good with a SATA ssd, they are cheaper anyway, but how many hard drives do you think I will have? I would not likely get more than 2 at most.
[/quotemsg]Ok, so I'll probably be good with a SATA ssd, they are cheaper anyway, but how many hard drives do you think I will have? I would not likely get more than 2 at most.






EDIT: Looked more into some air coolers, checked with some reputable sources. Looks like the Hyper 212 will fit me just fine. Thanks.
 
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Oh yeah, I understand. Thank you for the help!
 
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