How to move Windows to SSD from HDD?

Thomas812

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Hey guys, I've been wondering how I can move windows 10 and some steam games to my SSD.
I use to think I could simply drag and drop (I was dumb)...
But then I looked it up and you can mirgate it using programs, however these are not free plus friends told me it can muck up the SSD.
What is the safest way to do it? I beleive I still have the OS disk.

System Information Report

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home
System Type: 64 bit
Central Processor: AMD FX(tm)-6350 Six-Core Processor x6
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-MLX V2 (Don't ask... Cant even find it on the internet it's that bad..)
Power: Corsair 750W
Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1080
RAM: 8GB
Storage: 1TB HDD and 500GB HDD (Ordered Samsung 2.5-Inch 250 GB 850 EVO SSD)
Monitor: Two BenQ 60hz 21-inch monitors (Ordered Asus VG248QE 24-inch 144hz)
Case: GALAXY 3 BLACK PC CASE (Need to upgrade if possible, but not sure what one's fit)


NOTE: My 1TB HDD is currently 700GB / 1000GB and my 500GB HDD is currently 300GB / 500GB

So yes, the SSD cannot have all the files, I'm assuming I'll have to re-install windows, do I need a disk, how exactly do I do this?
 
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I was hoping it was on the 500GB drive.

Install and run Belarc Advisor. There is a slim chance it will retrieve your original Win 7 license key.

Thomas812

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How exactly can I do this?

1. Do I install the SSD first?
2. Do I need the disk
3. Is there an option to "Re-install windows onto a different SSD" on windows 10?
4. Please explain the process, thanks!
 

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Use Acronis True Image.

I'm assuming the image of the data on the HDD is less than the capacity of the SSD.

It will not mess up the SSD. You don't want to migrate programs, you want to create a bootable backup of the HDD.

If the HDD has more data than the SSD can hold, it gets harder.
 

Thomas812

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Yea, my HDD has more data than the SSD.. How would I go about this?

1. Do I install the SSD first?
2. Do I need the disk
3. Is there an option to "Re-install windows onto a different SSD" on windows 10?
4. Please explain the process, thanks
 

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2 options: Clean install or Migrate

1. Clean install - This requires that you have the install media and the license key for your OS
Where did this Windows 10 come from? (it makes a difference)

2. Migrate - This requires that the total used space on the current drive be significantly smaller than the size of the SSD> For instance, going to a 250GB SSD, you want the total used space to be below 200GB.


So...what do you have?
 

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That is an unavoidable problem, you can't fit more data onto the disk than it's capacity. I always prefer a clean install but that can be complicated and expensive if you don't have installation media and a activatable product key. An internet search on the topic of how to install windows may lead you to a preferred method (there are actually several ways depending on the situation).

As far as the migration cloning bigger to smaller... The way to do this is to relocate all of the "fluff" to somewhere else like an external drive, at least for the time being. "Fluff" being documents, movies, music, pictures, game files etc. The next thing you will need to do is shrink the disk via disk management.

Windows key+x > Disk Management > Right click desired drive > Shrink Volume > (wait) |

Then you will come to a prompt that will query you to decide on an amount to shrink the drive buy "Enter the amount of space to shrink in MB:" I would not shrink the maximum amount, I typically go to half the size of the target drive (for example if moving to a 250GB drive, I would shrink the one I want to move to the 250GB drive to say about 120GB or so if I can). You can expand it back out afterwards.

If the partition is larger than the target drive then you may run into an "unmovable file" issue. This is where the OS (for some reason) is not capable of moving certain the files from a particular sector to another. I've had this problem before trying to clone/migrate an os from a much larger partition on one drive to a much small smaller partition on another drive. Even though the data would fit, it can't do it because of partition size. An internet search of "can't shrink windows partition" or similar will give you a lot of info to try if this happens. I don't want to go too far into this as it can get pretty daunting sometimes.

If you're at the point where the drive you want to clone can fit onto the one you want to move it to, there are a few good options. Samsung data migration is made to do just this and from personal experience seems to work like it's supposed to. There are also imaging/cloning software like acronis you can use but they cost a few bucks.

I would highly recommend installing the SSD first and make sure windows performs an initial format (if new out of the box). Once it shows up and is initially formatted you need to do a quick scan for hardware changes via device manager (fast way to catch hardware hang ups).

Windows key+x > Device Manager > Action > Scan for hardware changes |

Make sure the drive shows up under the Disk drives tree and then go here: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/global/html/support/downloads.html

Make sure you're drive is up to date with the latest drivers and firmware (and other Samsung SSD software is there too).

Before doing anything, I would turn off write caching policies on all the drives

Device manager > Disk Drives > Right click > Properties > Policies tab > uncheck all boxes (restart computer for it to take effect)

Once the computer is back on repeat the previous step minus the box checking and make sure write caching policy is not enabled on any drive. Then do a disk check on the OS drive and the one you want to move it to.

This PC > Right Click (drive) > Properties > Tools > Check > Scan Drive (will probably say you don't need to scan it but do it anyway)

After you know the disk is in good shape and you're ready to go, it would be up to you to decide on the actual method. I would go with a known well reviewed program like Acronis or one that is specifically for doing this type of transfer like Samsung data migration. Before doing the actual cloning or migration I would highly recommend that you turn off the computer and follow ESD procedures while you unhook ALL SATA devices both the sata cable and the power to them. Except of course for the drive with the OS on it and the new one you want to move it to. Turn the computer back on and make sure everything still looks like it should (minus the stuff you disconnected) and do another scan for hardware changes just be be sure.

I feel like i've missed something but that's the jist of how I go about data migration/cloning.
 

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I have windows 10 from my old windows 7.
I've found a disk for windows 7. It says "Intended for distribution with a new PC"
"Includes service pack 1 - 64bit software"

Will this be enough? Because I have no idea if I have the key anymore
 

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You will need the license key.
 

Thomas812

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Ahh.. * damn it.. Don't suppose the key will be in the disk? Or will I have to buy a new one..?
 

Thomas812

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My 1TB HDD, C:
 

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:(
I was hoping it was on the 500GB drive.

Install and run Belarc Advisor. There is a slim chance it will retrieve your original Win 7 license key.
 
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Okay I've installed it and now it's come up with this page full of my whole PC specs ETC..
Where abouts is the key?
 

USAFRet

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About 1/2way down - Software Licenses
 

Thomas812

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Dude, I beleive I've found it!
Microsoft - Windows 10 Home (x64) XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX (Key: XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX)

Thanks so much!! (I've replaced the actual letter for X's for obvious reasons)
Thanks man, so all I do now is re-install it and put that key in?
 

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OK...so....

We can do a whole new install of Win 10 on the new drive. And you won't actually even need that license key.

Go here, download the MediaCreation tool from MS.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Install and run that.
Create either a USB install, or download an ISO file and create a DVD.

Disconnect ALL drives except the new SSD
Boot from the install media you created, and install the OS on the SSD.
When it asks for a license key, Skip.I believe it asks twice.
You don't need to enter the license key, because your hardware is already registered at the mothership from the original Win 10 Upgrade.
At the end of the process, it should report as Activated.

After it is all working on the SSD, reconnect your other drives, and do what you need with them.
You will have to reinstall all your applications. Steam games you probably won't have to.
 

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^^^ This is ultimately the best option without buying a new copy of WIN10. You will have to reinstall all of your stuff, but as long as you have the products keys for anything proprietary it's just a matter getting it your stuff on the new drive.
 

Thomas812

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I've found my key, thanks though