Need help with a gaming build $1750

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As the title says I am looking to build a gaming rig for around $1500-$1750. It will be mostly for gaming. The games I typically play are MMO's and MOMBA's, but I do plan on playing Overwatch (FPS) when it releases. This is only the 2nd comp I have built so any advice would be great. I am also looking on advice on a good monitor in $300 range. I don't think I need 144mhz, I do want a nice clear sharp monitor. I don't know much about TN vs IPS.



Here are the two builds I was looking at, and sorry I don't know how to use the PCPartPicker: I did provide links from the two sites I found these on.



Build #1 Link ($1750): http://elitegamingcomputers.com/top-gaming-computers/#21
CPU Intel Core i7-5820K
FAN CM Hyper 212 EVO
MOBO MSI X99A SLI PLUS
GPU Gigabyte GTX 980 Ti
RAM Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB
SSD Crucial MX 200 250GB
HDD Seagate 1 TB
CASE Phanteks Enthoo Pro Full Tower
PSU XFX 750W
ODD Samsung 24x SATA
OS Microsoft Windows 10


Build #2 Link: http://techbuyersguru.com/1750-advanced-gaming-productivity-pc-build
CPU Intel Core i7-4790K
MOBO MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition
FAN Thermalright Macho X2
GPU XFX Radeon R9 Fury 4GB
RAM Patriot 2x8GB DDR3-2133 Viper III Black
SSD Crucial MX200 1TB
Case Corsair Carbide 500R White
PSU EVGA Supernova 650 GS
ODD Samsung SH-224FB 24x DVD Burner
OS Microsoft Windows 10

Would I be able to get a rig around $1500 (Check out the two links I provided, both sites have a $1500 rig) that will still play the type of games I like at top settings and save a little towards a better monitor? Again it is MMOs (GW2/Camelot Unchained) and MOBAs (HotS) that I typically play. I hope I stuck to a decent enough format.
 
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Down below monster powerful gaming pc with G-synch monitor. Skylake build with good upgrade paths. Should be good for next 4-5 years.

Able to play all games in high/ultra at 1440p without any problems. Note the G-Synch monitor is at $670, and you could alternatively go for a cheaper monitor (excellent moniters at $250 ranges too, just not g-synch) and use the spare cash overclocking and m.2. sata drive.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($90.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99...

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To be honest I am clueless when it comes to all the new tech and what it means for performance. That was the reason I searched build ideas rather than trying to come up with something of my own. What does the Skylake bring to the table over the Haswell? Can I do a build around the same price using the i5 and a Skylake? Most of the builds I saw were pushing $2000 that were using the Skylake.

My big concern when trying to come up with my own build or altering the builds I found is that it might not all work or fit in the case or not be compatible, etc. All the things a clueless newbie builder is nervous about.

Also how do the two video cards I posted in the two builds compare? Has anyone tried both and what did you find?
 

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Down below monster powerful gaming pc with G-synch monitor. Skylake build with good upgrade paths. Should be good for next 4-5 years.

Able to play all games in high/ultra at 1440p without any problems. Note the G-Synch monitor is at $670, and you could alternatively go for a cheaper monitor (excellent moniters at $250 ranges too, just not g-synch) and use the spare cash overclocking and m.2. sata drive.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($90.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($618.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT WH ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX TS 750W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($62.40 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus ROG SWIFT PG278Q 144Hz 27.0" Monitor ($669.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1966.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-15 08:26 EST-0500
 
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@Victorion, what Monitor would you recommend in the $350-400 range and maybe going with another 8gb of ram? I meant to mention I would like to buy everything on Amazon if possible.
What is G-Sync and is it worth it. Monitor is fast, is the picture amazing as well? I saw some pretty negitive reviews on the monitor, but some positives as well. Again I don't play a lot of FPS games, do I need that 144mhz?
I am not to worried about overclocking, to sceptical in my ability or need. What do I get out of upgrading the SATA drive?
Thanks a lot looks like an awesome build.
 

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Monitors:
ASUS VG248QE $278.97
1ms response time | 144Hz refresh rate | nVidia LightBoost (removes motion blur) | 1920x1080p | 24 inch | TN

BenQ XL2411Z $289.99
1ms response time | 144Hz refresh rate | Motion Blur Reduction | 1920x1080p | 24 inch | TN

The monitor I originally suggested has very good reviews,
Asus ROG SWIFT PG278Q $684.97
1ms response time | 144Hz refresh rate | G-Sync | 2560x1440p | 27 inch | TN

ASUS ROG Swift PG278Q GSYNC Gaming Monitor review
Tom´s Hardware review

G-Sync basically removes tearing, stuttering from v-sync, and fixes input lag. Basically there´s no input lag at all with G-sync. 144mhz will give you smoother experience, and for some people, less headache when gaming hours on hours.

If you want another 8 GB, you just get 8 more of same brand and model type. (can´t mix and match)
Any DDR4 rams are fine really. What you want to look for is a combination of the highest hz and the lowest CL-rate.
More than 8 GB ram will performance wise for gaming, be negliable.

SSD Drive, will drastically reduce booting times for windows (like my rig cold-boots in around 8 seconds - meaning from the moment I turn on the power button till windows 10 is fully booted - and not for sleep state or similar). It also drastically improves loading/reading times. This can be helpful when opening programs or loading maps ingame.
In an MMO, it may mean you load a new area faster than your fellow players, getting into that dungeon a little faster.



 

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Of the two new monitor options you listed which would you recommend? Would you be worried with tearing without g-sync with either of those two? Also I didn't see a fan/cooler listed in you build? Any recommendations? Thanks again for your advice you are a huge help and making this process a lot easier.
 

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Optimally I´d suggest the Asus Rog Swift monitor, mainly because it´s a bigger monitor, higher resolution and supports G-synch.

If it´s a little too much, consider the ASUS VG248QE and you may also want to consider GTX 970 instead of GTX 980TI. GTX 970 is perfect for 1080p resolution gaming and you´d save another $300 on graphics card.

You don´t need a cpu cooler. The cpu comes with a stock cooler that will do fine unless you overclock. You could add a Coolermaster Hyper Evo 212 for around €25, it will be a more silent solution if nothing else.

So your choices really is:

1) G-Sync monitor + 980TI = Ultra premium gaming experience, 2K gaming in pretty much max resolution that will be good for a good amount of time (probably 5 years)

2) ASUS VG248QE + 970 = Suberb 1080p gaming, in close to max resolution that will be good for 3-4 years but may need to turn down settings in games to come, because of lack of vram among other things.