HPZ800 Additional Memory - Compatibility and Locating

seanbw1609

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Hi Guys. I'm back again with another question. I have a HPZ800 Workstation currently with 16 GB of RAM which is just 2 sticks of Crucial RAM CT102472BB160B (DDR3 PC3-12800 • CL=11 • Dual Ranked • Registered • ECC • DDR3-1600 • 1.5V • 1024Meg x 72 • )
I now need to bring the RAM to spec so I can install Oracle Fusion in it. Oracle Fusion requires at least 128GB RAM.
I was going to purchase : 8 sticks of 16GB RAM and on getting to Crucial, what they recommended was this: CT102472BB160B (DDR3 PC3-12800 • CL=11 • Dual Ranked • x4 based • Registered • ECC • DDR3-1600 • 1.35V • 2048Meg x 72 • ) I noticed that this was 1.35V as opposed to 1.5V and whether that mattered I have no clue.
So I asked for more recommendations and I got this: CT204872BB160B (DDR3 PC3-12800 • CL=11 • Dual Ranked • Registered • ECC • DDR3-1600 • 1.5V • 2048Meg x 72 • )
Now both options will cost the same i.e. £99.59 x8 so decision is price insensitive.
On the basis that 1.5V across the board sounds better I decided to opt for the 1.5V. then I thought - be safe than sorry and weepy. Ask for advise.
So here am I asking for your expert opinion about which to purchase and whether it mattered.
the second problem is the seating of the RAM chips. HP recommends that the lower memories be seated nearer the CPU whilst the high memories are placed outer or is the reverse? Since the workstation has 12 seats for the ram chips and I will be leaving 2 free, then I thought maybe buy 2 x 8GB, 8 x 16GB (16 + 128 = 144) plus the 16 already there now - giving me 160 GB RAM.
Most importantly - all the seats will be filled.
Is this a good idea you think? Please help. I need to start moving asap.
Two questions : First which chip to buy and does it even matter?
Second - seating arrangements - place the 4 x 8GB chips nearest the two CPUs i.e. 2 to each CPU. Then place the 4 x16 GB after so populating all the available slots.
Please help!!!
 
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I have never used the product, so I have no first hand info.

I am always a believer in having the same DIMMs where possible. You could start with 6 x 16GB and see how it performs. Is this for a development/test system or a production system?

kanewolf

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With two CPUs you get 12 DIMM slots. Memory is optimal in multiples of 6 (3 sticks for each CPU). So you either do 6 or 12 sticks of something. I would start with 6 x 8GB.

Have you looked at the system requirements for Oracle Fusion ?? -- http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/middleware/ias/downloads/fusion-requirements-100147.html
I don't understand where the 128GB requirement you had in the original post. The specs that Oracle provides shows MUCH LESS.
 

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Oracle Fusion is extremely notorious in terms of hardware requirements. Oracle has several notes giving minimum requirements but on the support site, the response to someone requesting a clear cut response was to refer to a team that will advise him/her.
This guy www.oratraining.com has written a book on implementing Fusion and he says minimal configuration is:
http://www.oratraining.com/blog/2014/04/oracle-fusion-applications-installation-step-by-step-guide-11-1-8/
Node 1
Hostname: idmhost
OS: Oracle Linux x86-64
Disk size: 300 GB
Memory: Minimum 8+ GB (Recommended 16+ GB)

Node 2
Hostname: fahost
OS: Oracle Linux x86-64
Disk size: 500 GB
Memory:
•Option 1. For single product (except Financials, CRM or SCM) : Minimum 64+ GB (Recommended 96+ GB)
•Option 2: For Financials or CRM or SCM: Minimum 88+ GB (Recommended 128 GB)
•Option 3: For all products selected: Minimum 144+ GB

Going by your recommendation, since I already 2x 8GB (1 per CPU), then I should buy 4 x 8GB (= 32GB or16GB per CPU) and then 16GB x 6 (96 GB or 48GB per CPU) giving me a total of 16+32+96 = 144GB or 72GB per CPU or bite the bullet - sell the 2 x 8GB and just buy 16GB x 12 giving me 192GB
Should I go for the 1.5V because that is the current spec of the 2 x8GB I have now although if I do go for the 12 x 16GB, the question becomes immaterial although I will wonder if 1.5V is better than 1.35V.
Its just that when I start hearing things like latency etc, my eyes glaze.
I hope you can help. The cost is high and I can't afford to muck it up.
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
 

kanewolf

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I have never used the product, so I have no first hand info.

I am always a believer in having the same DIMMs where possible. You could start with 6 x 16GB and see how it performs. Is this for a development/test system or a production system?
 
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