New Gaming-Build (850€ Budget, Bying from mindfactory.de)

Idanov · Dec 17, 2015

Hi, everyone,

After about 1,5 years without a proper gaming PC I'd like to build a new one.
I have chosen the parts below, but I would like to make sure everthing ist fine and I'm not buying anything that doesn't fit together or anything.

If you could give me a answer if everything is fine I would be very thankful.

Here are all the Informations you might need.

Approximate Purchase Date: After the holidays.

Budget Range: around 850 € (I'm from Germany)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (Fallout 4, Skyrim, Cities: Skylines, etc)

Are you buying a monitor: No, I own a Belinea 10 22 40 (1080p). I want to upgrade to a widescreen 1440p in the next 2 to 3 years

Parts to Upgrade: All, except Case, CPU Cooler and Storage. See below

Do you need to buy OS: No (Got Windows 8, I guess I can still upgrade to Win10)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: mindfactory.de, amazon.de

Location: Germany

Parts Preferences: Intel CPU

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: No, too expensive

Your Monitor Resolution: 1080p

Parts I already have:

Xigmatek Utgard Midi Tower Case

120gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD

Scythe Mugen 4 CPU Cooler

PCI WIFI Card

Those are the parts I'm planning to buy after christmas.

My shopping cart. Look at this for the actual price.

Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor

ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard

XFX Radeon R9 390X 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card

SeaSonic S12G 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply

Kingston HyperX FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory

Note 1:
I know that a i5 4460 would probably be sufficient, but I want the machine to be powerful over the next 5 years without upgrading anything. So i thought it is worth the step.

Note 2:
I have never overclocked anything, but i guess there are enough guides to look at.
I don't plan anything insane. Just a little bit.

imsqam · Dec 17, 2015

To future proof your build I would go with a Skylake build, more features and slightly faster. No need to get 16GB of memory at this point, 8GB is plenty. I revised four of the components, prices are from mindfactory.de. It is an additional 30,70 Euros but I am sure that with a bit of shopping you can get that down. You might also want to look around for some DDR4 2666 ram if you want to spend a little more.

About the PSU, I don't believe that the PSU shown in the link is the S12G-650 (SSR-650RT) but rather the G-650 (SSR-650RM).

http://seasonic.com/product/s12g-650/

http://seasonic.com/product/g-650/

Component; Artikelnummer; Gesamtpreis

Intel Core i5 6600K 4x 3.50GHz So.1151 WOF; 64963; 258,72
Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3; 8637111; 108,54
XFX Radeon R9 390X 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card; 64511; 388,97
SeaSonic S12G 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply; 8445590; 94,14
8GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4-2400 DIMM CL15 Dual Kit; 8614805; 49,58

Using PCPartpicker I could not see anything that wouldn't fit but it had no information regarding the fit of the cooler and the case.

logainofhades · Dec 17, 2015

Future is multithreaded. Change the CPU to a Xeon 1231v3. Basically an i7 4770, without the integrated graphics.

imsqam · Dec 17, 2015

Can you overclock with a Xeon? And are i7 and Xeon CPU's overkill?

logainofhades · Dec 17, 2015

You cannot overclock a Xeon, and they are not overkill, especially given the amount of time they intend to keep it. Games are finally starting to use more threads, and that trend won't go away.

Idanov · Dec 17, 2015

imsqam :

You're right about the RAM.

Changed it to 8gb.

Also added a Xeon 1231v3 plus motherboard.

https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/ed677522166564b9138edf4aa0f2dc52a7bec21e92704b5b2da

Look there.

Would this give a better performance than the last one?

Edit:

Just thought about it. The Xeon is much power that I don't actually need. I'll just game on that machine. And the Xeon won't really make that any better. Am I right?

logainofhades · Dec 17, 2015

I suggested the Xeon more for longevity's sake. You intend to keep this system for at least 5yrs. With the trend towards multithreaded games and software, the Xeon's hyperthreading will prove useful, long term.

imsqam · Dec 17, 2015

Okay. So Xeon's are better because games will make more use of multi-threading in the future and thus better utilize more cores. And the 1231 will be marginally cheaper than the 6600K. But DDR4 ram is out as well as overclocking and you will be stuck with an aging 1150 platform. Skylake also brings better IO capability as well. There are always trade-offs.

As far as which is faster the general feeling I get from looking at the benckmarks is that the 1231 has somewhat better performance in multi-core tests while the stock 6600K has a somewhat better single core performance. Overclock the 6600K and I don't think that it will be much of contest. But either choice is a good choice.

And for gaming as far as I know GPU is still king over the CPU, multi-threading aside. I am not convinced that we are at the point where we will soon see incremental increases in performance due to better utilization of more cores. My son plays Star Citizen which is one of the most demanding games out there and 4 cores are still not fully utilized. 2 cores are gone for sure.

http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i5_6600k-521-vs-intel_xeon_e3_1231_v3-437

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Xeon-E3-1231-v3-vs-Intel-Core-i5-6600K/m11040vs3503

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E3-1231-v3-vs-Intel-Core-i5-6600K

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/300722/will-the-game-support-directx12-and-multithreading

http://www.overclock.net/t/1548995/what-can-we-expect-from-dx12-and-games-when-it-comes-to-multithreading-and-full-use-of-pcs

imsqam · Dec 18, 2015

Idanov,

I hope that you have the information to make your purchase. One suggestion I would have if you go with the Xeon, bump up the ram to at least 1600 for only a few Euros more. I listed 3 choices below, I like the the G. Skill but any of them are fine. Happy Building.

http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-Crucial-Ballistix-Sport-XT-DDR3-1600-DIMM-CL9-Dual-Kit_933373.html

http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-G-Skill-RipJawsX-DDR3-1600-DIMM-CL9-Dual-Kit_688886.html

http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-HyperX-Beast-DDR3-1600-DIMM-CL9-Dual-Kit_820913.html

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