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Ok, so I'm building my own gaming pc. My specs are

CPU- Intel i5-4440
MB- MSI B85-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Ram- G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory
HDD- Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
GPU- EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card
Case- DIYPC Adventurer-I8-BL ATX Mid Tower Case
PSU- Fractal Design Integra M 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Monitor- AOC I2757FH 60Hz 27.0" Monitor
OS- Windows 10 home 64bit

Now i want this for my CPU cooler, but i'm not sure if its compatible or does cpu coolers not matter like one size fits all? Intel BXTS13X Water/Liquid Cooling Thermal Solution for Socket

Also should i add/change any things on my list or is everything ok? My goal with this computer of course is to game. Maybe not the best of the best graphics but pretty well.
 
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The Thermaltake Versa N21 has enough room for the largest of graphics cards so don't let size be a deterrent for your graphics card choice. As far as whether the NVidia card or AMD card, I'll suggest checking the forums (and benchmarks) of your favorite games to see which performs better for those games, make your choice based on that.
I like the build overall, 8GB is plenty of ram IMO.
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I dont really see a point in buying a CPU cooler, you cant overclock clock that cpu, so it is better to Just Use the stock cpu cooler and spend money elsewhere, for ex. buy a gtx 970 instead of a gtx960...
 
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First thing to note is that the memory frequency limit is 1600MHz, while the 2133MHz kit may work, it'll be limited by the motherboard and CPU to 1600MHz. You may find DDR3-1600 ram to be less expensive (but that's not a given).
As far as CPU cooling goes, I'd use the stock cooler that comes with the CPU to begin with. If you find that the stock cooler is too loud, then look to aftermarket cooling but without the ability to overclock, aftermarket cooling is unnecessary.

That's all the feedback I've got, hope it helps
 
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What i5 cpu can be OC'd and what would you perfer?
 
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Ok so i kind tweaked the list a bit. Please let me know.

Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor

Silverstone AR05 40.2 CFM CPU Cooler

MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard

G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

Crucial MX200 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card

Thermaltake Versa N21 ATX Mid Tower Case

Rosewill 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer

Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)

I would like to mess with overclocking i believe i can do it with this set up. Also two main questions. First since my MB can hold up to 4 sticks of ram, should i get just two sticks or four. i want to have either 8gb or 16bg of memory. Is 8gb ok or should i get 16gb? I will be playing games like GTA 5, Just Cause 3, Fallout, Minecraft. Seconf question. Can my GPU handle those games listed above?
 
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For the ability to overclock you'll need to change the motherboard to one featuring the Z87 chipset (along with the "k" CPU)
It is not advised to fill the ram banks if it can be avoided, I'll suggest that you either do 8GB total or 16GB total (2 x 4GB or 2 x 8GB). Either should work, it's up to you really. If you do fill the ram banks you'll want to look into cooling for the ram.
Which model Rosewill 650W PSU?
Did you give up on liquid cooling? Why did you choose the Silverstone CPU cooler?
 
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Ok and no i just forgot to update that, im still planing on getting a liquid cooler.
 
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Ok everything should be updated. Also am i ok with getting a 500W PSU? I'm using pcpartpicker.com and it says i will be only using 358W so i assumed just go with a 500w? i'm not sure. So the MB has the capability to be overclocked along with my gpu. I was trying to find a graphics card that was black and blue. Really the only one i could find was the Radeon R9 290X but i wasn't sure if it would fit in my case because that thing is huge, also i forgot how much but i needs a good bit of power to run the dang thing. Let me know if i should get the GeForce GTX 970 or the Radeon R9 290X. If i get the Redeon R9 im guessing i also have to upgrade my psu to probably 700W or somewhere around that range.

Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor

Intel BXTS13X 74.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard

G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory

Crucial MX200 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card

Thermaltake Versa N21 ATX Mid Tower Case

Silverstone 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer

Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)
 
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The Thermaltake Versa N21 has enough room for the largest of graphics cards so don't let size be a deterrent for your graphics card choice. As far as whether the NVidia card or AMD card, I'll suggest checking the forums (and benchmarks) of your favorite games to see which performs better for those games, make your choice based on that.
I like the build overall, 8GB is plenty of ram IMO.
 
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Ok thank you so much for your help. Happy new year btw xD

 
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One last question, so i'm on pcpartpicker and its saying this.....

Compatibility Notes-

"Some Intel Z87 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Haswell Refresh CPUs."

"The G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory operating voltage of 1.65V exceeds the Intel Haswell Refresh CPU recommended maximum of 1.5V+5% (1.575V). This memory module may run at a reduced clock rate to meet the 1.5V voltage recommendation, or may require running at a voltage greater than the Intel recommended maximum."

What is this saying?
 
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Intel specs say 1.5V and 1600MHz for ram modules but many people have used 1.65V kits without issue. Overclocking ram (running above 1600MHz in Intel systems) is also outside of Intel specs but is often done with voltages higher than 1.5. The highest frequency ram at 1.5V is 2133MHZ, above that you're into higher voltages. You could do a Ripjaws kit like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231468 and keep voltages ~1.5
A Z97 board would be a better option IMO but the MSI Z87 board does show support for the 4690k with BIOS version 7850V17 - it's possible the board would need the BIOS flashed to 7850V17 - I can't find a release date for that version so I can't tell the likelihood that a board will have it already installed (a Z97 board shouldn't have such issues).
I doubt I'm making sense to anyone other than myself so if this is confusing, ask and I'll attempt to clarify
 
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Yeah it's a little confusing, i dont know much about pc stuff. So pretty much i need to get the Z97 MB instead of the Z87 MB?

 
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Gotcha, Do you know anything about streaming ? If you do can you take a look at this......http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2921183/build-streaming-game-play.html
 
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ok thank you for the help :)
 
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