[SOLVED] Serious: What's the point in buying an iMac?

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Hello,

All my life have I been a Windows guy and still to this day I am and will always be BUT, noone really explained to me why one would buy an iMac. The reason I heard the most out of everything is "Final Cut Pro and Logic, that's why" but that's not answering my question. This is a matter of Windows vs OS X, NOT PC vs Mac. Macs use components that are on the market for consumers just like any other pc but with their own design and OS. One could build a PC for half the price of an iMac and just install OS X right? I mean other than the (beautiful) designs of iMacs and Macbooks, I don't see a single reason, except for not wanting to build your own pc, to buy an iMac over an PC? I mean maybe the Macbooks because of their design and feel but, what about Mac Pros? Even my IT teacher has an Macbook running Windows 8.1 and I asked him why? And he said I don't know I just like the laptop, I can live with that but why Mac Pros?

This is a serious question, thank you.
 
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You are a 1%er. Most people have no idea of how to do that. Nor do they want to.
A PC or laptop is merely a tool, not a hobby.

My wife has a custom built PC, only because I built it. Otherwise, she'd probably just have a Dell from BestBuy or something.

Fashion. Many people subscribe to the fashionness of the Apple world. May be a false concept, but it does exist.

What you are used to. If you'd been in the Apple world for a decade, you are far more likely to continue down that road with your next machine. Or the other way with the Windows ecosystem.
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There is no point buying an iMac. Everything that you can do on mac you can do on windows. They buy it just to look cool.
 

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Serious or not, this type of thread usually results in little more than a MAC vs PC flame war.

I'll warn posters now to keep your responses on topic and to the point. Post your opinions on the OPs question and nothing more. DO NOT respond to other poster's comments. Direct your comments ONLY to the OP.

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Thank you for the reply. However this is also an Windows vs OS X thing, people say professionals buy Macs because functionality and stuff but that's just hardware and then they go on about how OS X is better but besides some program exclusives, it's all the same
 

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That's exaclty why I posted this here and not in a Windows based forum, in hope of receiving actual serious responses instead of PCMUSTARDRICE nonsense
 

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Look cool? I'd take my obsidian case any day for a bitten apple logo. Also water cooling. And actually good graphics. And being able to play games.
 

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What is Apple Hardware? Don't they use Intel processors, NVIDIA/AMD GPUs and so on? Again Windows has nothing to do with this, Windows can be installed on a Mac just like OS X can't be installed on a PC.
 

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I have been "raised" in the apple world since my dad and sister only buy apple products, however its just recently that I mirgrated to windows HOWEVER the BIG main reason why macs are so popular is...;

-They are reliable
-Less prone to malware and viruses, After years of browsing apple forums and owning apple brands, I hardly know anyone that has caught a virus, compared to windows users
-There are so much more user friendly, Easy interface and programs that you can get used to in just an hour (windows is confusing at times till this date)
-Updates from apple are a lot less common and when they do upadate, its fast and almost bug-free
-Their apps are top notch in details and looks, Lots of reviews and again a simply interface compared to windows for the most part (iTunes apple app is amazing)
- The displays (retina) are superb
-In my experience mac products tend to break a hell of a lot less, or run into a lot less problems then microsoft.
Ive been a microsoft person for 6 months and during those 6 months ive been having more problems then Ive had from being a apple consumer for the past 5 years!!!
Updates, Drivers, Random crashes, Mouse and keyboard bugs and glitches, annoying monitor problems all in the space of 6 months compared to Macs where Maybe I could encounter a mouse problem for the year and thats it...
- The material that apple uses (alluminion, metal INSTEAD of plastic garbage that breaks) apple products can last so much longer!
I like to compare it like the razer black widow as microsoft and the K70 RGB as apple when it comes to material...

- I have a almost 12 year old macbook that functions!!! yes its a bit slow, however its JUST AS FAST as a microsoft computer when it comes to youtube videos or browsing, also im amazed that its battery is still alive after 8 years of use!
-Yes the price is overkill for apple products, but my dad strongy beleives that its worth it for the stability that the company brings, the awesome look and crisp feel brings a superior product when it comes to look and durability, Lets be honest compared to PCs...

And of course, the professional look and brand name plays a role to

Overall apple products seem to last a crap ton longer and are much reliable EVEN if macs cant game as well, or if there prices are high!
 

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Case, keyboard feel...
The VAST majority of people, Windows or Apple, have no idea what 'parts' are on the inside. Nor do they care.
 

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Then why do people like Austin Evans, which is a very respected youtuber, use a Mac Pro even though he builds tons and tons of PCs?
 

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I cant remember every aspect of its hardware, but my Imac 2010 model had Nvidia GPU and an intel i7 (i thin apple used the ever first i7s, not sure about that)
16gb of ram (dont know which company the RAM is from)
unfortunately from memory thats all i know from the 2010 Imac model
 

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With the above warning in place, I will try and give you an honest reply the way I see it.

Back when I used an Amiga, Amiga OS (Workbench) was better than the proprietary Apple OS at the time hands down.
Things moved on, and Windows took over the world, and Apples OS was so far behind they killed it off, and started OS X. OS X is just a BSD backbone with some Apple proprietary code on top.

Most arguments against windows disappeared soon after 1998/2000.

I know people that work for Apple (as top lvl programmers here in london), and the only thing they have to say in favour of their macs is the nice build quality on the laptops. At home they all use windows.

It's just marketing and style in my opinion.
 

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1. The term "respected youtuber" should be banned from the planet.

2. Why does it matter what he uses in his personal life?
 

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I agree with some points and disagree with other. For one, the updates are very true but AGAIN that's OS X vs Windows and a Hackintosh PC can run OS X as well, the reliabilty is true to some extend. Reliability will be found mostly between laptops and yes most Windows laptops are plastic and not very high quality (ASUS has very solid aluminum laptops) but that's where it ends. My custom PC will last me 10+ years I can guarantee you if I don't do stupid stuff (overvolting my GPU until it burned) simply because components are components on the inside, there's no such thing as Apple hardware except monitor, keyboard and mouse. From what I've seen in iMacs is that the CPU and GPU run to an absolute ridicilous 100 degrees under workloud (iMac 5K), that is messed up, my gpu/cpu both run max 70 degrees which also means that my components will last longer. I would like to hear your response, thank you
 

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Macbooks are indeed very well built and nice but that's pretty much where it ends for me. Thank you for the answer.
 

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You are a 1%er. Most people have no idea of how to do that. Nor do they want to.
A PC or laptop is merely a tool, not a hobby.

My wife has a custom built PC, only because I built it. Otherwise, she'd probably just have a Dell from BestBuy or something.

Fashion. Many people subscribe to the fashionness of the Apple world. May be a false concept, but it does exist.

What you are used to. If you'd been in the Apple world for a decade, you are far more likely to continue down that road with your next machine. Or the other way with the Windows ecosystem.
 
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sadly i have never ran internal testing in my iMac, but I can agree that the heat was stupid hot for tasks id imagine wouldnt stress the computer

like after 7 hours of browsing and maybe playing a game or two, the back top of the iMac felt like hell (put your finger no longer then 2 seconds on it and you will get burned, kinda hot, no exerageration) however even with the extreme heat I saw no difference in mac doing its job or working slower (I guess it was a bad heat dispersing design)

Yes With any hardware, if you take care of it, it can last a long time, however Its just something about mac laptops that are so good, You drop a mac laptop on the floor, it still works as if your first bought it, You drop say a lenovo laptop, and your bound to have something cracked, broken leaving hardware damaged (mac is like the nokia of phones :)

its just that mac are so reliable leaving the customer using it, not having to patch/update each month compared to what windows has to offer with all its program, anti-virus , drivers etc, its like your bound to have your computer update each month , compared to macs where its rarely the case...
I never bothered doing the bootcamp windows to mac, because I saw no purpose.. so I have no experience in that also.

also keep in mind, its all down to personal preferences as stated.
Tbh I prefer a mac laptop compared to anyother laptop out there, i mean if you have a charger that dies, its so god damn easy to go out and replace it, compared to say an asus laptop charger where it can take a lot longer to find the specific charger model..
Also What I LOVE about macs was the use of having the iCloud, browsing, itergrating and 'COMBINING' the apple TV to your Imac and iPhone was a huge beautiful innovation that Apple company Conquered back then, lie all the Apple products could merge to have a fast pace download, Installation of music, videos, sending information over wifi so easily etc...
yes microsoft and a lot more companys are catching up, windows 10 with the intergration of xBox ONE as an example...
but for desktop I like my custom rig over the iMac :D
 

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Because he makes great content? It's like saying that I won't like someone because they don't listen to heavy metal like I do.
 

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I'm sorry, this is not a serious question. You make it quite clear from the preamble that you have no intention of switching from Windows to OS X, so the answer can be of no possible interest to you.

This is pure flame bait and you are, IMO, trolling. That said, I have no need to justify my purchase of both PCs and Macs.

 
The same reason people buy iPhones. The interface is pretty and the hardware looks stylish. It is expensive so it must be good. The hardware is medium high specced sold at ridiculous prices. The best move Apple could make is to sell OS X licenses and iOS licenses, only it would kill their "prestige" business model.
 

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Firstly, I apologize if anything I say has already been mentioned (it probably already has been)
The price is in no way worth it, if it you look only at hardware, it is the software and design that makes it really special.
The specs are typically mid-range (except in the mac pro), but things like retina displays, and thin devices give it this sort of elegant look. In general, the software can be more easily optimized for Macs, as they are not made to be upgraded too much. This is sort of like iOS devices compared to Android. While Android devices have much beefier specs such as 3-4 Gb of RAM, and Octa-cores, iOS devices that have only 1-2 Gb, and Dual-cores are still capable of keeping up.
Fewer people use Mac OS X than Windows. This is both a good and a bad thing, as it means that viruses are more focused towards Windows rather than Mac. In general, a Mac is not much more secure, its just that no one targets a Mac. However, with fewer users, means fewer developers will make software, so Macs have a much smaller library of Applications.

For the iMac alone, here is my opinion:
Pros:
-Very quiet (thanks to the patented fan technology that Apple has developed
-Thin and Elegant, even if it is just the edges
-Great optimization (runs fairly well, even as it gets older)
-Great customer support (my keyboard broke, and at the store they took it and gave me a new one on the spot)
-Free OS updates (this is very minor, but it is a great thing)
-Great software (Easy to use)
-Very good with heat management (The body is aluminum, so it works as one large heatsink)

Cons:
-Underpowered
-Smaller choice of applications
-Expensive
-Fans do not ramp up unless it reaches critical temperatures (it will be pretty much silent for as long as possible)
 
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i have never used mac os as daily driver so please any misconception that i have!!!

1. i agree macs are reliable.
2. i agree they are not prone to viruses..... BUT....
imo this is because macs dont let you do much with your laptop..... ie. i only get viruses when i try to download a hack for a game or crack for a software etc..... and that too i dont get malware, i just get adware and some irritating shitty software etc....
Can you get cracked softwares or game hacks for mac os??
3. i find windows has alot easy interface..... really..... its because i have used windows since my first computer so i find it easy and mac os is confusing as hell for me..... you might think that i m crazy but i guarantee you that most windows users find mac os difficult to use...
4. updates from apples are less common.......... i feel that getting frequent updates is good for performance of hardware because i read somewhere that macs dont allow users to update their graphics drivers and other drivers..... let me tell you drivers can sometimes make alot of difference
5. i agree that apps might be good looking (although i havent used any apps on mac os) but how can they have simple interface and provide details?? (i gotta try some of those apps).... and using itunes can u download free songs using itunes??? and can you connect an android phone with mac os?? i really dont know if u can or cant (havent used mac os)..... but i do know that in windows you can connect anything to anything .... i can connect iphone,android phone,windows phone etc. to windows pc.....
6. PCs have better displays i guess..... 100hz 120hz 144hz 240hz...... 1080p 2k 4k 8k.....
7.i assure you that if you have windows properly installed and have updated drivers once and use a windows computer like you use a mac , then you are not gonna have any problem...... atleast i havent noticed any errors if i use my computer for basic and professional uses and just install and use original apps.......
8. i have to agree that apple laptops have great battery and looks but as far as quality is concerned then windows machines also have good quality products which might be better than apple too.....(maybe)
9. if any 12 year old microsoft computer has ssd then if will perform similar to your 12 year old mac..... just a prediction though....

So, apple provides only quality products that has good performance that are very highly priced but customer dont have to think twice before buying them (if they are rich)..... but in a windows machine if you have money you can go for good quality product and if you dont have money then you can go for a cheaper one which performs exactly same as expensive one.....

i feel that those who dont care about what hardware they need and dont want to use cracked softwares or things like that should go for apple and others should go for microsoft
 

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Cracked software does not even enter the equation.
There is zero need to use cracked software on a Windows system. Zero, none, zip, nada.

Zero need.
 

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Over 18 months since the last response.
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