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You could also consider a Z170 based build.... and if ya want a fantastic looking MoBo, the Titanium is "da bomb", tho its the same price as the sabertooth mark S. Unfortunately pictures just don't do it justice. And it's auto OC ability is the best I have ever read about.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_z170a_xpower_gaming_titanium_review,25.html

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($259.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220-X 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM EDITION ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Memory:...
1. The system is last generation if that matters.

2. The MoBo is more geared to workstation usage than gaming....as is the CPU...the Sabranco sure is perty tho

3. With the release of the 980 Ti, I really don't see value in the 980.... two 970s or a 980 Ti is a betetr option.

4. PSU is way way oversized. Twin 980s will work on a 850.

5. H440 is a nice case, but before pulling trigger, I'd look a a few options

6. Overclocking oriented MoBo, overclocking oriented CPU, no CPU cooler ? But if ya use one, tall RAM heatsinks may interfere.

 

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Is this a legit build? Totally depends on what you intend to use if for? What games will you be playing? What resolutions? Will you be using it for video rendering? For 1080 resolutions you really don't need more than a 970 - the performance difference between 970 and 980 is hard to justify the additional cost.

Yes, the parts are all compatible, but here are some other thoughts. I didn't see any aftermarket cooler. I'd recommend at least a Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO, or Corsair H80i GT liquid cooler if you want to get serious about cooling and overclocking. Do you like the armor on the Mark 1? It's really not necessary and the mark 2s cost about $50 less - it's the same board. 1200W power supply for this build is complete overkill. Even if you wanted a SLI setup you could easily get away with a quality 1000W PS. Also, I didn't see a storage solution listed, but with this level of components I'd recommend a SSD/2TB combination.
 
Your at $1585 w/o a cooler....this would be $15 cheaper but adding a cooler, brings it to $1655

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($223.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($132.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($152.85 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($91.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($94.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($308.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($308.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Luxe ATX Full Tower Case ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1655.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-03 21:52 EST-0500

I went with white case and cooler, RAM and GFX to match. If ya want black, could save maybe $50. This system will be about 40% faster than the other one.

You could also stay with the mark 1 or even better the Mark S if you can find one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132414
 
It's damn fast and not very tall so shud miss the cooler. Picture is off as it's listed as 2 x 8GB but 4 sticks in pic. Avexir is a boutique brand and you are paying a lot for the aesthetics. Seems almost criminal tho when the Corsair 2400 CAS 11 VP's are just $70

I normally recommend the Redlines at CAS 10 but they are extremely difficult to lay your hands on. The GSkill Tridents can be had for $99. You can remove the tops of the heat sinks which are there just for looks, or paint them any color ya want and put them back on if ya use water cooling.

If ya wanna go there, it's only an extra $50 for a Swiftech H240-X
http://www.swiftech.com/H240-X.aspx

Actually as you will save $53 on the RAM, the extra $55 is no bigga deal as net is $2

If ya want as the 240-X is expandable, later on ya can add a 3 x 140mm rad in the top, put the H240-X in the front and add two water blocks for the GFX cards (assuming they have a block for them, haven't checked) and your whole system now water cooled.


 

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I wouldn't get more than an 850w power supply, and that's only if you plan on running 2 gpus in sli/crossfire someday. Since at this point you probably don't know if you will get another gpu in 1-3 years, then I would get the 850w so that you have options and don't need to buy another psu. If you know you will never run 2 gpus, then a 750w is good.

With the money you save in your psu you can get a better graphics card (Gtx 980 ti), and get an ssd which will make your whole system run faster.
 
You could also consider a Z170 based build.... and if ya want a fantastic looking MoBo, the Titanium is "da bomb", tho its the same price as the sabertooth mark S. Unfortunately pictures just don't do it justice. And it's auto OC ability is the best I have ever read about.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_z170a_xpower_gaming_titanium_review,25.html

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($259.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220-X 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM EDITION ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($91.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($94.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($318.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($318.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Luxe ATX Full Tower Case ($142.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1887.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-04 01:52 EST-0500

NOTE: Add $10 for the H240-X cooler with 34% more cooling surface area. PCPP doesn't list it.
http://www.swiftech.com/H240-X.aspx

It will take you up to $1898 tho to go with current generation technology.... then again

You had no cooler, we spent $150 there
You had no storage, we spent $187 there... ya can always hold off on the SSD and add that later

But take that $337 off the $1898 and we are at $1561, $37 cheaper than your original build. If budget an issue, you could work off stock cooler and SSD and be perty darn close to your original budget; than add those items later. Either way you now have a current generation system where the GFX subsystem alone is 40% faster. You have a SSHD which is 50% faster than any mechanical HD, a shockingly gorgeous MoBo with superb auto overclocking and sound and finally DDR4-3000 RAM.

BTW, you can compare the Luxe and the H440 here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdWXLAmmSjc

Again, the RAM was chosen for the matching aesthetics as well as the great performance. Wait on choosing the GFX card till the day you purchase.... this week the Strix was at the attractive price, next month it might be someone else. In order of 970 preference, I like the MSI Gaming followed by the Gigabyte G1, Asus Strix, Zotac Amp and finally EVGA SSC. You can read the component specifics here if ya wanna get into the nitty gritty

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-review/2

Case wise ya also might want to consider a silver option

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811854025

Wow.... in looking that up just realized something:

Case of the Year 2013 - Enthoo Primo
Case of the Year 2014 - Enthoo Pro
Case of the Year 2013 - Enthoo Evolv
 
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I'd suggest making it a tad cheaper with a Fury . That card beats out the GTX 980 in 4K gaming, and probably even 2K. At 1080P, they perform about the same.

As for the compatibility issues, I don't see much of a worry there. Whatever the RAM "problem" is, the motherboard would just tone down the speed.

And the 1200W is way too much. 750W is aplenty.

Also, Jack Naylor makes a good point with the case. Even though the H440 wins the popular vote last year, it has some heat issues.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($352.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($122.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($84.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($81.49 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 Fury 4GB Video Card ($569.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1498.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-04 02:30 EST-0500
 

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I still don't see any explanation as to why Skylake is being recommended other than it's "last generation". More money for same performance doesn't make sense to me. If you are looking for a high quality gaming rig then go with the 4790K which overclocks extremely well which translates directly to increased gaming performance. It also costs about $75 less than a 6700K for pretty much the same exact performance.

Also, if your going to drop nearly $600 on a graphics card there is no question you should go with the GTX 980ti. This is the difference between people making recommendations based on what they read and specifications and real life application. You can get a GTX 980ti for around $600 if you do some shopping and this is an insanely fast card with excellent driver support and plenty of vram (6GB). It's bascially a Titan X without the additional 6GB of RAM which you wouldn't need anyway, but it costs $400 less.

All this being said, a GTX 980ti is probably overkill unless you are gaming at 1440p or higher. What resolutions do you plan on playing at? At 1080p you really don't need more than a GTX 970.

Also, there was some discussion earlier about getting an elaborate water cooling setup. This is not for you based on what you have described so far. Based on your tech background and experience you would be best served by a Corsair H80i GT which is super user friendly and extremely high performing. In my experience they keep temps within 5-10% of the far more expensive custom 240mm and 360mm rads that others have suggested here. You need something that's simple, easy to use, and extremely effective and that's what you would get with the H80i GT.

If you are open to a case change I'd highly recommend the Fractal Define R5. They are amazing cases with excellent airflow, plenty of space for cable management, very quality components and design, and very nice look. This one is on sale for $100 with free shipping:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352051&cm_re=fractal_design-_-11-352-051-_-Product

Anyway, here's a quick look at what I would recommend:

Intel Core i7-4790K (should be easily able to OC to at least 4.6Ghz with the cooler/MB below)
Corsair H80i GT
ASUS Sabertooth Z97 Mark 1 or 2
Corsair Vengance Pro 16GB DDR3 2400 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233778
Samsung EVO 850 250GB SSD
WD 2TB Storage Drive
GTX 980ti http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125803
Corsair RM 750W GOLD PS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139142
Fractal Define R5 Case

Get some Thermaltake Riing series fans with the LED color of your liking if you want to really add to the overall quality and look of the PC.



 


Thru Thanksgivingf 2015, we were recommending Z97 based builds. Now it's kinda a tossup as 2nd and 3rd stepping boards / CPUs are in the channel. Because there are good arguments on both side, I provided one Z97 and one Z170 based. But the various explanations supporting Z170 that can be applied are:

1. Z97 boards are rising in price while Z170 boards are dropping.
2. The premium for skylake is dropping almost daily
3. A 6700k is not needed for a gaming box and the cost difference for the CPU 6600k versus 4690k is just $36
4. A 2015 automobile performs as as well as a 2016 model, but the resale value is better on the 2016.
5. Z97 is at "end of life" and many of the most desired motherboards are no longer available.
6. I have, more than once been in the situation where a MoBo died before the warranty ran out. If your Z97 board dies and the manufacturer has no more stock left, they can fulfill their obligations by giving you a comparably priced Z170 board, then it's up to you to go out and procure a socket 1151 compatible CPU at your own cost and expense.... been there, done that (on three 1156 builds that we did). Luckily I didn't also have to buy another copy of Windows...which i doubt will be as easy on Win10.
7. With the move from Haswell to Devil's Canyon this made much more sense as a 4770k would work fine in a Z97 motherboard.... the socket incompatibility here makes getting "end-of-life" tech a bit more risky. And with prices dropping, the smaller price differences shifts the cost / risk ratio to favor the Z170 build

The suggested 240mm rads are by no means custom. The H240-X is an all-in-one unit that outperforms every H series Corsair CLC ever made, and is according to reviews, easier to install than the Corsair units

1. The Corsair CLC units violate the 1st rule of water cooling which says "never mix metals". When you mix aluminum rads and copper blocks, this is the result.
https://martinsliquidlab.wordpress.com/2012/01/24/corrosion-explored/

2. The Swiftech units can be expanded to add cooling for GFX cards using blocks that cool the GPU, memory and VRM. The CLC type coolers cool only the GPUs, providing no extra performance as OCs are more oft limited by VRM temps than GPU temps.

3. The H series pumps are 0.1 gpm.... look on any water cooling site and 1.0 gpm is the minimum recommended flow.

4. The aluminum rads are performance limited compared to copper ones.

5. In the image below, we see the Corsair flagship H100i w/ twice the radiator area of the H80 at 73C compared to a much cheaper air cooler at 71C. To accomplish this, it produces a sound level equivalent to a 1950s style vacuum cleaner, 12 times louder than the cheaper air cooler that performs better.

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http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cooling/liquid/40870-swiftech-h220-x-open-loop-240mm-cpu-cooler-review?showall=&start=3

With that in mind, the H220X makes infinitely more sense as a starting point into liquid cooling. It is ready to go out of the box and requires no maintenance, but it is also fully expandable when you are ready to take the next step. Even if you aren’t looking to take the next step, the H220X outperforms every CLC on the market, and does it at more than 20 dB quieter. Plus, it actually looks like an open loop cooler, simply because it is one.

Installation of the H220X was very easy, probably the easiest liquid cooler I have ever done. A huge part of this is thanks to the use of the Apogee XL block,... and comparing it to the Asetek/CoolIt/etc [They make the Coprsair H series]. kits, it is absolutely a world better. The radiator/pump/reservoir assembly go in simply with fan screws to your desired location in the case. The PWM splitter is as easy as it gets, and takes absolutely all of the guesswork out of the wiring setup.

In terms of performance, well….we could simply leave it at the fact that the H220X is simply the best performing out-of-the-box cooler you can buy today. Period. ... 240mm CLCs can’t touch the H220X in all out performance, and at tolerable noise levels the H220X flat out embarrasses them.

To sum it up; the H220X offers better performance, lower noise, better aesthetics, flawless design and build, better components and the option of expandability when compared to a CLC. Putting it gently, choosing any CLC over the H220X would be doing yourself a huge disservice. If you are looking to step into liquid cooling, or looking to start a small loop, the H220X is the obvious choic

As fort he other choices.... some things to consider

The new RMx series by CWT are certainly better than the original Chicony units; don't blame Chicony, the parts used were the problem and they were as per Corsair Spec....but at $99, I still can't see taking it over the EVGA models, both of which offer a savings over the RM ... the G2 is $5 cheaper and has twice the warranty, the B2 is half its price.

The Gigabyte 980 Ti G1 is great performer but several points need be made:

a) more than 1 in 5 G1 owners give the G1 and extremely negative 1 egg rating
b) The card can draw up to 359 watts (293 under metro LL) .... before overclocking which adds 20%.
c) The 750 watt PSU is inadequately sized to allow a future upgrade to SLI thereby extending system life by 18-24 months.
d) The 750 would serve twin 970s which provide 40% more performance for the same price.

All the cases mentioned are very good ... can't go wrong really with either, but there are notabvle differences, mostly in the area of cooling options

Fractal R5 - Ratings = 94 / 100 / 99 / 98 / 97 (488/500)
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6834/fractal-design-define-r5-mid-tower-chassis-review/index7.html

NZXT H440 - Ratings = 99 / 100 / 100 / 99 / 100 (488/500)
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6042/nzxt-h440-mid-tower-chassis-review-first-case-to-score-top-marks/index7.html

Enthoo Luxe - Ratings = 100 / 99 / 100 / 98 /100
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6574/phanteks-enthoo-luxe-full-tower-chassis-review/index8.html

The WD HD results in a performance drop down to about 65% with the black and less than 50% with the Blue.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/hdd-charts-2013/-17-PCMark-7-Gaming,2915.html

Seagate SSHD - 9.76 MB/s
WD Black - 6.34 MB/s
WB Blue - 4.01 MB/s *
 


The problem is beating out anybody at 4k is relevance:

1. Less than 1% of the systems out there are at 4k
2. No single card can deliver a satisfactory gaming experience at 4k, even with SLI / CF, two cards struggle to maintain 60 fps in today's games.
3. If the current AAA games weren't being held to < 30 fps w/ 1 card at 4k, the $GB of RAm would be an issue. Look at the fps, and more importantly FCAT results in the article here where the FuryX experiences issues that the 980 Ti does not:

In Far Cry 4, the Radeon R9 Fury X is fully playable at 1080p and 1440p, as are the GeForce GTX 980 Ti and the GeForce GTX Titan X. By 4K, with all features maximized, however, only the GTX 980 Ti is managing 30 FPS. The minimum frame times, however, consistently favor Nvidia at every point. We’ve decided to include the 0.1% frame rate ratio as a measure of how high the lowest frame rate was in relation to the highest. This ratio holds steady for every GPU at 1080p and 1440p, but AMD takes a hit at 4K. Let’s look at how that plays out in-game by consulting the frame latency graphs for each GPU.

Both AMD and Nvidia GPUs throw high frames out of band at every resolution, but the AMD Fury X tends to throw more of them, at every resolution. This is particularly noticeable at 4K, which is also where we start seeing spikes at the 4GB node. This looks to be evidence that the GPU is running low on memory, whereas the higher RAM buffers on the 980 Ti and the Titan X have no problem

In short, no card is suitable for 4k if you wanna play at high settings

As far as 1440p / 1080p we have to ask the question "Will Afterburner be used to increase the clocks / memory

here we see the reference nvidia cards stack up against the non -refercne Fury as follows at 1440p
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/R9_Fury_Strix/31.html

Fury - 100%
980 - 93%

Now we see that the Fury OC's 6.36% (100.2 / 94.2)
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/R9_Fury_Strix/34.html

And we see that the 980 OC's 22.7% (160.5 / 130.8)
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Gaming/28.html

And just out of the box, the card is 7.03% faster than the reference 980
So "outta the box", the MSI 980 would be 93% x 1.07 = 99.54

That means that overall, the outta the box Asus Fury is about 0.46% faster than the MSI 980

The relative performance with both overclocked therefore is:

Asus Fury OC'd = 100% x 1.0636 = 106.36
980 OC'd = 93% x 1.227 = 114.11
MSI 980 (stock) = 93%

That makes the overclocked 980 about 7.3% faster overall than the Fury at 1440p.

So if ya use the cards "outta the box", the Fury takes a 0.46% lead getting 100.46 fps to the 980's 100.00 fps
But if ya use the cards "overclocked", the 980 takes a 7.3% lead getting 107.30 fps to the Fury's 100.00 fps

I don't see however where the Fury is cheaper than the 980. Since Thanksgiving, the 980 has climbed in price from $450 to $480-$500, while the Fury is still $530 - $550.

However, the 980 Ti pretty much made everyone forget about the 980. I don't see the bang for the buck here, twin 970's gives 40% more performance for 30% more cost as compared to a 980.