Boot order issue?

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I hope this is the correct place for this, if not, feel free to move it mods.

got my rig all up and running last night, installed windows 7, installed all missing drivers, installed chrome, set my resolution and desktop size, etc - standard new pc setup stuff. Had it running perfect. Here's the catch - the case does not have an available 5.25 bay available for the cd rom drive which was my intention. I don't see myself needing one what with games being digital download now and worst case scenario i get an external usb for future emergencies.

So, PC is all set up like i like it and running smooth at this point. I had one thing left to do - wipe the auxiliary hard drive that i use for storage/game installs. I pop east-tec disposesecure disk back in to the cd drive and reboot. I let that drive wipe while i went to bed (1tb 7200rpm drive took about 2hrs to wipe).

Then this morning, I power it down, remove the CD drive and accompanying sata cable, and power it back up. It posts fine so there's no hardware issue and i can get into the bios, but It seems like it's still trying to boot from the non existent CD drive because i get a black screen that says something along the lines of "reboot and select bootable drive or insert media" (that's not word for word, but those were the instructions essentially). I have checked the boot priority and it is set to SSD first, then HDD (no cd drive present in bios). Still get the same message when trying to boot up. I even disabled boot option 2 and just had the SSD be the only option with the same results. I took the cmos battery out for a few minutes and put it back in. upon power up, i got the "bios has been reset" message and chose the "reset to optimum defaults" option and restarted... same thing happened.

At this point I'm not sure what to do. A co-worker with an IT background suggested trying to plug the CD rom drive back in, enter bios, and make sure that it is a lower boot priority than the SSD, save, then take it back out and see what happens. I will try that today when i get off work, but other than that, is there anything else you guys might be able to think of in the meantime? Sorry for the wall of text, I just wanted to make sure you had all the details so i didn't potentially crucial out.
 
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That should work. If I recall correctly when I had to replace a motherboard and went to reinstall windows a message popped up with the Microsoft phone # to call to reauthorize. Since you are using the same MB, your existing product key should work just fine.

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I'm afraid of where you're going with this... It was plugged in when installed the OS on the SSD. If what you said is what happened, am i screwed? Windows 7 isn't going to be genuine if i have to reinstall since it's OEM... UGH. please give me some good news.

EDIT: although, i don't see how this could happen. Why would windows take it upon it self to put the boot partition of one drive onto another? Is there anyway to repair this or put this back if that happened?
 
Have to agree with ss202sl. You propably did wipe your boot partition.
You can reinstall windows. It will still be genuine, since there is no hardware change.

You can also fix your windows installation, just need windows install media.
1. enter BIOS and make your SSD primary in boot order (you can disconnect your HDD also).
2. boot from windows install media and go to recovery options command prompt.
3. using diskpart, shrink ssd partition by 200M; create new primary partition for bootloader, format to ntfs and make it active; exit diskpart
Commands would be like this:

diskpart
list disk
select disk X (x - your ssd disk number, propably 0)
list partition
select partition z (z - number of your windows partition)
shrink desired=200
create partition primary
list partition
select partition y (y - number of newly created partition)
format fs=ntfs quick
active
exit

4. recreate bootloader on newly created partition
bootrec /fixboot
bootrec /scanos
bootrec /rebuildbcd
 
SkyNet Rising and ss202sl are right. When you said your copy of Windows was OEM, I got a little confused, since you said you installed Windows from a CD drive. If you had bought a prebuilt PC with the operating system already installed, that would be OEM. Since you have the CD with windows on it, that is referred to as retail.

As to why Windows would install the boot partition to the HDD- who knows? It's Microsoft. But I have seen that issue on this forum quite a few times. Just don't plug in the HDD until Windows is up an running. You may even want to wait until Windows does all of it's updates, but that is probably not necessary.
 

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It is the OEM copy (like you can buy off newegg). i think it may also be referred to as system builder. The easiest thing for me to do would just be to wipe the SSD again and reinstall windows, but i dont want to do that if it will reject my product key. If it wont, that is what im going to do.
 

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OK, so I just got off the phone with Microsoft. The first person I spoke to had no idea what I was asking so I gave up on her and called back hoping to get someone different. The second person, I think, understood me... assuming nothing was lost in her comprehension of the English language. She said that I could "delete" the hard drive (meaning wipe, I guess) and reinstall windows from the disc and I shouldn't run into any problems activating, but if I did, I could call back and have the product key authenticated over the phone.
 
That should work. If I recall correctly when I had to replace a motherboard and went to reinstall windows a message popped up with the Microsoft phone # to call to reauthorize. Since you are using the same MB, your existing product key should work just fine.
 
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