Upgrading my tired 9 year old PC :D

Jeromelo

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Hello! :)

I've recently had the gut feeling that my PC needs a makeover. I brought the PC from Dell back in 2007 (I think it was £400 for a whole desktop set up inc. peripherals). The motherboard died in 2011. To save buying a new PC, I replaced the motherboard with a Gigabyte one and a new power supply, along with a basic ATX case and a new processor cooler fan. The hard drive, CD drive, and graphics card are the originals that came with the Dell PC.

Recently, I've cleaned all the components and transferred them to a new Corsair Carbide Spec-01 MidATX case. I've just finished cloning my 9 year old Seagate 500GB HDD to a new WD blue 1TB HDD - I hear no clicking! And I think responsiveness has been improved.

Now it's time to get serious and start building. I'm very confused by the abundance of choice available and am undecided in what to do next :heink:

As my PC has been running an AMD processor since the beginning, I began to look and the AMD A8 processors but with more research, I've been swayed to the Intel processors, mainly the 4th gen i5's. I now know that there are the newer 6th gen i5's available and should I continue along this line, I will blow the budget and get more confused - Overclocking? I am open to this but never done it before. Should I first overclock my current system?

I'd like help in figuring out what components I should use to build/upgrade my PC.

My current set up:

Case: Corsair Carbide Spec-01 MidATX (£40)
HDD: WD blue 1TB (£40)
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-M52L-S3P
Processor: 9 year old Dual Core AMD 64 Athlon II 3600+ (BIOS states this is running at 1.9GHz :pfff:)
Processor fan: basic heatsink and blow fan from Akasa
GPU: AMD Radeon (basic one, maybe 512mb, came with the original Dell)
GPU fan: Evercool blow fan
CD Drive: It's a generic drive
RAM: 3GB (1gb x2 512gb x2) <-- it's a mix and match
Power unit: CiT 500W
OS: Win 7


My ideal budget is £300 but can stretch if there is added value. I'd like to get mid-range components. I have already spent £50 on a new HDD and case (I had a £30 gift card for amazon).

Proposed New Build items:

Processor: i5 4460/4690k/6500 ??
Mobo: ?? Asus? Gigabyte?
RAM: Hyper FuryX 8gb (4gb x2)
Case fans: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Static Pressure Fan Dual Pack (can get later on)
Processor cooler: Coolermaster Seidon 120V Hydro Cooler (the Hyper Evo 212 does not fit my case)


Flexible to upgrade in the future (3years+)

The concept of the build is to create a robust PC, that can handle intermediate photo and GoPro video processing, produces nice 5.1 surround sound, great at the usual tasks (surfing web, streaming, documents etc) with scope to play games - I was going to buy a PS4 but an upgraded PC that I could occasionally play games on would be better for my needs!

Any insights and wisdoms would help dearly :). I'm seeing this as an investment and a chance to self build that will hopefully last as long as my 'upgraded Dell' did!

(From the UK and am using Amazon.co.uk & Scan.co.uk to source components).

Apologies for the essay - Looking forwards to ideas!
 
Solution
Are you in for a treat.
The passmark rating of your Athlon dual thread II 3600+ is 968 with a single thread rating of 587.

With Skylake now available, there is absolutely no question in my mind that a new build should be Skylake.
a. Prices for cpu, z170 motherboard and ddr4 ram are almost precisely the same.
b. Skylake has an estimated 5-10% performance improvement per clock over haswell.
c. 14nm runs cooler, you get a decent overclock without the need for exotic cooling.
d. The Z170 chipset permits the use of much faster ssd devices on the horizon. Samsung 950 pro for example:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/global/html/ssd950pro/overview.html
e. skylake can be upgraded in the future to kaby...
Are you in for a treat.
The passmark rating of your Athlon dual thread II 3600+ is 968 with a single thread rating of 587.

With Skylake now available, there is absolutely no question in my mind that a new build should be Skylake.
a. Prices for cpu, z170 motherboard and ddr4 ram are almost precisely the same.
b. Skylake has an estimated 5-10% performance improvement per clock over haswell.
c. 14nm runs cooler, you get a decent overclock without the need for exotic cooling.
d. The Z170 chipset permits the use of much faster ssd devices on the horizon. Samsung 950 pro for example:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/global/html/ssd950pro/overview.html
e. skylake can be upgraded in the future to kaby lake.

I suggest using a 4 thread(2 cpu) skylake i3-6100, Passmark rating 5510, single thread rating of 2005. About £105.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00VHKZ6I8?keywords=i3-6100&qid=1452310714&ref_=sr_1_1&s=computers&sr=1-1
It comes with a cooler that is adequate.

Use a Z170 motherboard for future upgrades, most any will do.
Here is a asrock one that is about £88
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B012D7G26I?keywords=asrock%20lga1151%20z170&qid=1452310285&ref_=sr_1_4&s=computers&sr=1-4
Asrock has announced that they support BCLK overclocking of non "K" skylake processors. Other brands are likely to in time.

It is iffy to upgrade ram later.
Consider a 2 x 8gb kit of ddr4 ram. About £78 8gb is usually enough, but ram is relatively cheap so get whatever you need up front.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0123ZC44Y?keywords=2%20x%208gb%20ddr4&qid=1452310320&ref_=sr_1_1&s=computers&sr=1-1

On graphics, the included skylake integrated graphics will do everything except fast action gaming.
Plan on using integrated until you decide how much graphics capability you really need.

You feel good about your wd blue hard drive.
But, you really should relegate that to bulk storage use and buy a ssd for windows. It makes everything you do much quicker.

Samsung has a nice migration app to do the migration to their ssd's.
about 240gb will be good.
I will NEVER build again without one.

 
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Geekwad

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I'd throw out there, especially with the editing/processing being in the mix, to get 16Gb of DDR3 as it's being sunset right now and will be more difficult to find it in the future. And because you tend to keep machines for a long time, and matching RAM later on is a crap-shoot (even if you can manage to find the same make/model when you'd want to expand)....it would be best to just get it out of the way now and buy a matched 16Gb kit.

For a GPU to give you PS4-like performance, it's somewhere in between a 750ti and GTX 950 (the 950 would be worth the stretch).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£143.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-P ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£67.08 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£33.72 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card (£94.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £339.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

I'd also highly recommend an SSD for you main OS and programs, and using the Blue for storage. It doesn't add to game performance, but it will add a massive snappiness to the system overall and will speed up your intermediate processing tasks.