Will the AMD FX 6300 bottleneck GTX 970 cards with OC?

Adhyanth · Jan 10, 2016

Im planning to build a new PC so I've selected the above processor and the graphics card due to its value for money..

So will the CPU bottleneck the GPU with Overclock?
If not then what frequency range should avoid bottlenecking?

imsqam · Jan 11, 2016

The guy below has his CPU cranked up to 4.8GHz but he still hasn't caught up to the GPU (Graphics score >> Physics score). It will work but I think that the CPU will bottleneck.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4408595

Adhyanth · Jan 11, 2016

imsqam :

Hmm.. This lands me into an even more confusing state.. I saw several videos where players are playing triple A games with the above CPU and GPU (CPU Overclocked) at Ultra Graphic Setting and they get 50-60 FPS performance!!

And many others say that there is no bottlenecking as the GPU is at 99% usage.

But thanks for the reply!

imsqam · Jan 11, 2016

Didn't say it wouldn't work, it just appears that the GPU is more powerful than the CPU in relative terms. But it is always a game in trying to determine system performance. If someone has the same setup and is playing the same game(s) and has no problem, go with that.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2305857/gtx-970-fine-6300.html
http://www.maximumpc.com/will-your-cpu-bottleneck-your-graphics-card/#page-1

Adhyanth · Jan 11, 2016

imsqam :

Hmm... Okay thanks.. But I'll wait for other responses and see what they say too..
Again thanks a lot!

PatrioticPickle · Feb 7, 2016

The FX 6300 wouldn't be a very wise choice for the 970, as the 970 is a high end card, whereas the 6300 is a lower end CPU. It won't necessarily bottleneck the card, but you will be missing out on tonnes of performance. Even an i3 outperforms the 6300.

My advice is get a i5 (preferrably a 'K' series one, so it can be overclocked), you will see a huge performance boost. I swapped from a FX 8350 @4.6ghz OC (which is pretty much AMD's best processor) to a i5 3570k @ Stock speeds and saw a 30fps boost in GTA 5 alone. Games just aren't optimised for AMD CPU's anymore as they favour single core performance which AMD CPU's do terrible at.

It would just be a waste of a GTX 970 if it was paired with a 6300.
Not to mention that an i5 would run cooler, draw less power and be more future proof

Outlander_04 · Feb 7, 2016

The FX6300 is about as powerful over all as an Intel 2500k, but because that power is in 6 threads and not 4 they are all individually weaker.
Some games use all available threads and the FX will perform very well. Definitely not bottlenecking a GTX970 at 1080p resolution.

In older game engines that don't thread well it will fall behind a little, but usually not so much you would notice

Adhyanth · Feb 7, 2016

PatrioticPickle :

Thanks for your input but my main purpose of usage will be 3d designing and gaming with the former being the first priority.
That's why I'm looking for a great multitasking processor.
There's also the price difference of about $120.

And AMD is gonna release their new Zen series by Q4 this year which apprently improves the single core performance by 40%

PatrioticPickle · Feb 7, 2016

Outlander_04 :

The FX 6300 doesn't even come close to the i5 2500k game performance wise, the 2500k even beats out the FX 8350 in most games, and the 6300 isn't even close to the 8350. Check out this video, it shows the 2500k beating out the FX 8350 in most games demonstrated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ_5p9wd2dk
Also note how much more consistant the FPS is on the 2500k than the FX 8350. You will find that most AMD's seem to stutter a lot. That aside, we are talking about processors that are 4-5 years old now, it's old technology.

Adhyanth · Feb 7, 2016

PatrioticPickle :

Outlander_04 :

The FX 6300 doesn't even come close to the i5 2500k game performance wise, the 2500k even beats out the FX 8350 in most games, and the 6300 isn't even close to the 8350. That aside, we are talking about processors that are 4-5 years old now, it's old technology. Check out this video, it shows the 2500k beating out the FX 8350 in most games demonstrated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ_5p9wd2dk
Also note how much more consistant the FPS is on the 2500k than the FX 8350. You will find that most AMD's seem to stutter a lot. That aside, we are talking about processors that are 4-5 years old now, it's old technology.

I understand what you are saying. Granted that i5 wins by a mile in gaming performance, but for 3d rendering and multitasking it dosent come close to the AMD chips.

My first priority is 3d rendering and modelling.

PatrioticPickle · Feb 7, 2016

Adhyanth :

The i5 would very close to the FX 6300 for rendering and such. If your serious about 3D Design/rendering, you should maybe be looking at a FX 8350, due to its 8 cores.
Yes AMD does claim that they will improve single core performance by 40% over their current range (which is 4 years old). But this really doesnt mean much considering processors like the 2500k 4 years ago already had up to 50% better single performance than the top of the line 8 core AMD's. And intels single core performance has been increasing each year when new CPUs are released. So in the end AMD is still going to be behind.

PatrioticPickle · Feb 7, 2016

Adhyanth :

PatrioticPickle :

I understand what you are saying. Granted that i5 wins by a mile in gaming performance, but for 3d rendering and multitasking it dosent come close to the AMD chips.

My first priority is 3d rendering and modelling.

I don't mean to be rude, but by the sounds of it, you're not very serious about gaming. So why even waste your money on a 970. Get a FX 8320 or FX 8350 as they would destory the 6300 for 3D rendering and modelling paired with a GTX 960 or a R9 380 (or lower cards depending on budget). There is no point of having such a good GPU when the low end CPU is going to hold it back.

PatrioticPickle · Feb 7, 2016

Adhyanth :

PatrioticPickle :

I understand what you are saying. Granted that i5 wins by a mile in gaming performance, but for 3d rendering and multitasking it dosent come close to the AMD chips.

My first priority is 3d rendering and modelling.

The i5 wouldn't come close to a FX 8350 8 core in rendering. But I would imagine that a i5 would come close to a 6300 as the 6300 only has 2 more cores than the i5 whereas the 8350 has 4 more cores than an i5. Can you show me a comparison between the 6300 and a i5. I can only seem to find the 8350 vs an i5.

PatrioticPickle · Feb 8, 2016

Just found this video today, an i3 6100 is basically better than the FX 6300 in every way (even rendering) and the i3 is only a dual core processor! Imagine what an i5 Quad Core would look like versus the FX 6300, there would be no comparison.

https://youtu.be/V4dUCeF2jnU

Adhyanth · Feb 8, 2016

PatrioticPickle :

Hmm. Interesting. Thanks man. I'll look into it.

Outlander_04 · Feb 8, 2016

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/85370-intel-core-i5-6600k-14nm-skylake/?page=8

This a review of the latest skylake i5 from intel . You can see if your read it that it is finally competitive with an FX 8350 in productivity tasks . But still is usually beaten by the FX 8 core .

As for the alleged gaming superiority of intel : its wrong , and gased largely on poor understanding of digital tech.
A monitor refreshes at 60 Hz . This is the exact same thing as 60 fps . If you have two computers and FRAPS is telling you one is making 60 fps and the other is making 90 fps then the user experience is identical . The comp making 90 fps is sending 90 fps to the monitor that is then dropping randomly 30 fps and NEVER displaying them on screen .

For a budget build the FX 6300 is still thoroughly superior to any intel of the same price and better than most that cost $40 more

PatrioticPickle · Feb 9, 2016

Outlander_04 :

Well, the 6300 will be probably be achieveing a max of 60fps, and when there is frame drops they will be very noticeable. No doubt in some games you will have drops that go to as low as 30fps and will result in a poor playing experience, whereas an i5 have better frame pacing than AMD's and FPS drops will be less often and less noticeable and will not drop below 60 which will result in a consistent, pleasant gaming, experience.

As I said I am a FX 8350 owner, and its pretty goddamn horrible when it comes to being able to maintain stable frame rates. On GTA 5 which is a game I play very often, I was only achieveing 50-60 fps, with drops as low as 30. Whereas when I swapped to a 3570k I was getting 90fps with drops only as low as 70 which resulted in a far more pleasant experience

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