Bottlenecking my 980ti with a 1440p/60hz monitor?

Hamza_10 · Jan 10, 2016

The title describes my concern. I have ordered Asus MX27AQ which is a 1440p/60 Hz IPS monitor. Should I return the monitor and get a 1440p/144 Hz TN monitor? Please share your knowledge and experience to help me out on this.

Noob question: If I have a 60 Hz monitor, will I be only noticing frames upto 60? And can i overclock this monitor to eliminate this bottleneck?

Minky7 · Jan 10, 2016

Hamza_10 :

60Hz = Display of up to 40 fps. Altough you will be getting more than 40 fps in the actual computer (As long as vsync is off in games.) your eyes will see only up to 40 fps, if it was up to me, and I had the money, I would get the 144 hz seeing as how it should display around 70 fps. Monitors cannot be overclocked.

rcald2000 · Jan 10, 2016

@Minky, a few things. When you say a 60 Hz 1440p monitor can only display 40 FPS, could you please clarify what you mean? Are you suggesting that a single 980 Ti can only muster 40 FPS at that resolution or because there is some technical limitation to the display technology itself. "Monitors cannot be overclocked" is not an entirely accurate statement. Several monitors, not all, can indeed be overclocked. Granted, the Asus MX27AQ probably isn't one of those models, but there are certainly ones that can, along with manufacturer approval.

@Hamza, would you mind stating your full system specs including your power supply model #? What monitor model did you upgrade from? Also, what games do you wish to play? What is your upgrade budget? Would that budget include the sale of the old monitor, or you're keeping it?

rcald2000 · Jan 10, 2016

Personally, I haven't yet made the jump to 144 Hz, although I've heard great things. I have two 1920 x 1200 IPS 60 Hz monitors, and one 3440 x 1440 IPS 60 Hz monitor. They are all Dell branded. If I had a spare $800, I would probably buy a 1440p IPS 144 Hz "g-sync" display. But I'm guessing that the Asus MX27AQ ran you about $400 - $500 USD, which is a huge leap from $800.

Minky7 · Jan 10, 2016

rcald2000 :

@Minky, a few things. When you say a 60 Hz 1440p monitor can only display 40 FPS, could you please clarify what you mean? Are you suggesting that a single 980 Ti can only muster 40 FPS at that resolution or because there is some technical limitation to the display technology itself. "Monitors cannot be overclocked" is not an entirely accurate statement. Several monitors, not all, can indeed be overclocked. Granted, the Asus MX27AQ probably isn't one of those models, but there are certainly ones that can, along with manufacturer approval.

@Hamza, would you mind stating your full system specs including your power supply model #? What monitor model did you upgrade from? Also, what games do you wish to play? What is your upgrade budget? Would that budget include the sale of the old monitor, or you're keeping it?

I meant limitation of display. Also, gg I didnt know monitors could be overclocked.

Hamza_10 · Jan 10, 2016

rcald2000 :

These are my specs (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FzLJ6h)

I have built a gaming pc for the first time. My pc is assembled and sitting on my desk but still can't decide the monitor i should use.

Edit: i am expecting to play witcher 3, BF4 and other FPS games on ultra settings. But do not want to end up having 40 fps even on ultra as mingy mentioned (if he is right)

Hamza_10 · Jan 10, 2016

Minky7 :

Hamza_10 :

60Hz = Display of up to 40 fps. Altough you will be getting more than 40 fps in the actual computer (As long as vsync is off in games.) your eyes will see only up to 40 fps, if it was up to me, and I had the money, I would get the 144 hz seeing as how it should display around 70 fps. Monitors cannot be overclocked.

That's scary. I do not want to end up having a high budget rig with 40 fps :'(

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Hamza_10 · Jan 10, 2016

Minky7 :

Hamza_10 :

60Hz = Display of up to 40 fps. Altough you will be getting more than 40 fps in the actual computer (As long as vsync is off in games.) your eyes will see only up to 40 fps, if it was up to me, and I had the money, I would get the 144 hz seeing as how it should display around 70 fps. Monitors cannot be overclocked.

By using the term "overclocking" i was referring to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sXeSwe1_dU

Hamza_10 · Jan 10, 2016

rcald2000 :

I am getting MX27AQ for 438$ (620 CAD) and the lowest price for which i can get Xb270hu 1440p/144hz monitor is 687$ (973 CAD) . These prices includes shipping and taxes. So should i go towards Xb270hu?

Minky7 · Jan 10, 2016

Hamza_10 :

Minky7 :

That's scary. I do not want to end up having a high budget rig with 40 fps :'(

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Your rig will get more than 40 fps. You will only see on the screen 40 fps due to the 60 hz monitor. However I don't know as much about monitors as others, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

jragonsoul · Jan 10, 2016

Minky7 :

Hamza_10 :

Your rig will get more than 40 fps. You will only see on the screen 40 fps due to the 60 hz monitor. However I don't know as much about monitors as others, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

I am pretty sure with a 60hz monitor you will get 60FPS if vsync is on. That's where all mine topped out until I got my 27" 1440p 144hz freesync monitor. Where did you get 60hz=40FPS?

Minky7 · Jan 10, 2016

jragonsoul :

Minky7 :

I am pretty sure with a 60hz monitor you will get 60FPS if vsync is on. That's where all mine topped out until I got my 27" 1440p 144hz freesync monitor. Where did you get 60hz=40FPS?

That does make sense seeing as how my 60hz tops at 60fps with vsync, however I guess I just read it somewhere wrong.

ChrisCarbomb · Jan 10, 2016

I wanna hear about this 60hz is 40 fps more as well...

jragonsoul · Jan 10, 2016

ChrisCarbomb :

Well the hz on your monitor is how many times it refreshes a second. So 60 frames per second is the max number of frames able to be displayed a second on a 60hz monitor. Then you have 120 or 144 hz screens. Some people can see the difference between 60/120/144hz and others can't. Regardless though if you want more FPS out of a capable system (And it must be capable of pushing over 60hz or you're wasting money) you need a monitor with higher refresh rates (hz) to do so.

Hamza_10 · Jan 10, 2016

By doing some research there seems to be consensus among pc community about noticing only 60 fps with a 60Hz monitor. I guess i will be facing tearing with this monitor as the GPU would be delivering more FPS than the refresh rate of the monitor. I won't be able to use V-sync as i have a nvidia card. Might have to exchange my monitor with xb27hu

ChrisCarbomb · Jan 10, 2016

I know all that. I have a 144hz montior and love it. Huge difference over 60. Im on avg at 120. But minky stated that a 60hz monitor will show only 40 fps not 60. I wanna hear the reasoning behind that

ChrisCarbomb · Jan 10, 2016

You can use vsync and g sync with a nvidia card. But no freesync if that's what you meant bc that's an AMD thing Hamza

jragonsoul · Jan 10, 2016

ChrisCarbomb :

Minky also stated they didn't know a lot about it and thought that they might have read it somewhere. I think it was just them reading something wrong or reading bad information.

Hamza_10 · Jan 10, 2016

ChrisCarbomb :

This is what happens when a noob like me build a high end gaming pc and do some research for the first time

Minky7 · Jan 10, 2016

jragonsoul :

Yeah... :/ Well, I guess that's what these forums are for, sharing info!

jragonsoul · Jan 11, 2016

Minky7 :

Oh I wasn't saying anything bad. I was just letting them know that's where you stated you got the info. You're all good dude.

Minky7 · Jan 11, 2016

jragonsoul :

Minky7 :

Oh I wasn't saying anything bad. I was just letting them know that's where you stated you got the info. You're all good dude.

Oh whoops, sorry if that sounded kinda sassy. Meant to say it in a happier tone.

Hamza_10 · Jan 11, 2016

Well i ended up ordering XB270HU as well and will see which one looks better and if i get any bottleneck. And will make decision accordingly

jragonsoul · Jan 11, 2016

Hamza_10 :

Considering that they are only about 100 dollars apart I think the XB270HU will delight. But let us know how it goes.
Oh looks like I was looking at a refurb. The new price is much higher. Well I hope you still love it!

Hamza_10 · Jan 11, 2016

jragonsoul :

I ordered for 973 CAD$( canadian dollar sucks) including shipping and taxes.

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