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Hi,

We are looking into upgrading our wireless and are unsure about a couple options.
We have Fios and currently have an Actiontec 802.11g router from verizon from several years ago.
It used to work fine but the signal now only works in about half of the house.

The options I was considering were:
1) get a new router from verizon (the fios quantum gateway or the newer actiontec one)
2) use a MoCa bridge and a different router (asus, netgear, etc). I believe that the current router can be configured as a bridge, but my parents want an option that does not use it at all since we think it may stop working completely soon. Was looking at this for the bridge: http://www.actiontec.com/338.html

Can anyone advise on which is better? or router recommendations?
Also, if anyone has successfully used fios with a non-verizon router, was it easy to do and would option 2 above work?

Thank you
 
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Qualifier: I have FiOS. 50/50, soon to be 75/75.

1. Get the Quantum gateway. It is very nice. I have that.
2. MOCA. Do this for other locations in the house. I do, for access upstairs.
I have one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Ethernet-Adapter-Service-ECB2500C/dp/B008C1JC4O

Assuming you have the typical FiOS setup of ONT -> coax -> FiOS router....the ethernet signal already exists in the house coax.
So...a MOCA device upstairs or wherever, attached to the coax in that room. Cat5e off that MOCA...poof, internet in that room.
Or, a switch off that MOCA+cat5e, and internet to multiple devices.
 
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Talk to verizon about activating the rj45 connection in the fiber termination box. This will allow you to use pretty much any standard router.

If you do not buy tv from them then it will be simple. If you do buy tv I think you have to keep the verizon router also....but it is only use for the set top boxes. Been a long time since I had fios so I forget. This is one of the questions the tech support guys seem to know.

If you are using a old 802.11g router you should see significant improvement using 802.11n in the speed. It will not necessarily improve the range of the coverage but if you do get signal it should run faster. Still you have much more options in routers when you hook to the rj45.

I am not sure if verizon supports running a second device connected to the router via moca. Their set top boxes work that way but I don't know if you could buy a moca adapter and put in a remote room and use it as a bridge/switch to connect back to the main router. I know the newest cable modem allow that. This again is a question for verizon...this one thought you would have to find the right tech

.............as I see I was not fast enough. Good to know you can just use a moca adapter in a remote room.
 
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Yes. It works quite well.

Upstairs, a 1-2 coax splitter. 1 leg going to the STB, the other leg going to the MOCA.
Off the MOCA, a PC, or a switch + multiple PC's.
 
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Because of the wiring we have, I think I have to stick with the coax output from the ONT.

Do you have a moca adaptor connected to your router to send the signal over the coax? Or is the signal getting to the coax just from the ONT?

I just want the adaptor between the coax from the ONT and the router
 
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The MOCA just connects to the house coax. It can be pretty much anywhere.

The ethernet signal already exists in the house coax, coming from the ONT.

I have a coax splitter to distribute to the main STB/DVR, and the Quantum router.
Also, another leg to go upstairs for those TV's.

Upstairs, another coax splitter in one room to distribute to that STB, and the MOCA.
Off the MOCA....a switch or a PC.
 
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ok, I had seen them advertised as having a pair. One converting the RJ-45 plug to coax to go into the house wiring and the other(s) somewhere else in the house to convert back to an RJ-45 plug. I guess with fios putting the ethernet signal in the wiring already, the first of the pair is not needed
 
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Not long after I upgraded to this, I tested that.
Using my Kindle as a test device, got a basic signal 3 houses away. 200 feet(?).
However, if upstairs...
Directly above the router, great. 20 feet down the hall, 25% less. But it still works.

But every house is different.
And the MOCA has precluded distance WiFi considerations.
 
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Correct. The signal already exists in the house coax.
A pair would be needed if that were not the case. Similar to powerline devices. In here, out there.
With your FiOS, it's already 'in'. You just need an 'out'.
 
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