i5 6600k vs i7 6700k

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Yes, it is that question again. I don't want to be that guy, and I promise that is not my intent. I have always used AMD in my builds, but I've decided (after some really constructive criticism from a fellow forum member) to go the route of Intel this go around.

I definitely want to go with the Skylake architecture. I want this system to be future adaptable, because while I would upgrade yearly if necessary, I would prefer to be set for several years. Also, I need this computer to fit my needs. I am back in college working towards my Bachelor's in IT, specializing in Web and Graphic Design. I use Photoshop, After Effects, Illustrator, and Vegas 13, among other programs, as well as game. I know that an i5 would be the better route to go if I was just gaming, but being that I'm doing these different forms of editing and rendering, I'm assuming that the i7 would be a better fit.

My build budget is around $1500 and with the i5 6600k, I'm sitting right around $1425. The i7 6700k is roughly $150 more than the i5, which would technically put me slightly over budget; however, if the benefits would outweigh the cost, I would splurge some and jump on the i7. I just need some opinions because, like I said, this is my first Intel build. Ever.

I'm willing to spend the money. I'm not willing to throw money away, however.

Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks!

(PS: I will be using the R9 390 with 8GB VRAM... I don't see a big enough difference in numbers to make me jump to the GTX 980 ti as it was suggested.)
 
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The i5 should do quite well for photoshop and illustrator. The i7 may offer a bit of a boost for sony vegas. If working in the adobe products, especially if working in photoshop/illustrator side by side make sure you've got at least 16gb of ram. That's going to have a significant impact on that sort of multitasking and if you're doing a lot of work in those programs you might even consider 32gb. By the time you allocate x amount of ram for photoshop and illustrator, 16gb can go pretty easily.

How much work you plan to do in vegas and possibly after effects. After effects it depends on the version and tasks you're doing, the more cores the better in many cases (up to 8 cores) but that was also tested using a 5960x which is a true 8 core...

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About GPU, yes in numbers it might be not. But most of game are NVIDIA supported, and also the stability of the temp of NVIDIA is one of the things you should consider also. (But since you are doing design, AMD is the best choice)


About I7 and I5, well in Ghz(Numbers) might not be worthed.
But for me.
Definitely I7 with 150 bucks more going to be worthed.
Why?

Hyperthreading - Feature that I7 have, which others doesn't.
Hyperthreading will DEFINITELY help you in multi task.

This link will help you : http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/hyperthreading-technology-explained/
 

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Some of that cost is attributed to my color coordination/scheme, my case choice, a closed loop water cooler for my CPU, etc. It's going on top of my desk rather than in a cubby hole, so it has to look as good as it runs.

I have also not ran it through PC Part Picker either.
 
The i5 should do quite well for photoshop and illustrator. The i7 may offer a bit of a boost for sony vegas. If working in the adobe products, especially if working in photoshop/illustrator side by side make sure you've got at least 16gb of ram. That's going to have a significant impact on that sort of multitasking and if you're doing a lot of work in those programs you might even consider 32gb. By the time you allocate x amount of ram for photoshop and illustrator, 16gb can go pretty easily.

How much work you plan to do in vegas and possibly after effects. After effects it depends on the version and tasks you're doing, the more cores the better in many cases (up to 8 cores) but that was also tested using a 5960x which is a true 8 core cpu. Not a quad core with hyperthreading so it's possible that the gains won't be as high simply because there are 8 threads. Likely higher than 4c/4t but 4c/8t is not 8c/8t either. The more cores the higher the diminishing returns as it scaled up.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-After-Effects-CC-2015-Multi-Core-Performance-714/

For photoshop and illustrator almost no gain.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/skylake-intel-core-i7-6700k-core-i5-6600k,4252-5.html

Aside from some platform improvements, it's hard to look at any modern platform (mobo+cpu) as an investment in future proofing of any kind. Simply because the cpu upgrade(s) that will be compatible with a given motherboard are so slight before a new socket is created that it's more or less a 'set'. You'd be better off buying it as a tool for particular use/needs than with hopes of remaining current because no matter what you get, skylake included, by the time it's worth upgrading it will be outdated.

If you have the budget for the 6700k at all or it's up for consideration you might be better off looking at a 5820k which has 6c/12t and also uses ddr4.

Just a generic comparison between the 6700k and 5820k. Since you mentioned an aio cooler I didn't include a cooler on either and neither comes with a stock cooler. Granted the core speed out of the box are faster on the 6700k and the power consumption is less (as it should be with 2/3 the cores) but you get 50% more cpu cores/threads with the 5820k for rendering and after effects work. Just something to consider. Also bear in mind with a decent cooler the 5820k can be decently overclocked as well to help make up for the slower stock speeds.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($419.41 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($153.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $648.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-12 03:30 EST-0500

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($374.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($143.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $608.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-12 03:31 EST-0500
 
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Yeah, I'll piggy back off of synphul's answer a bit and say that you should just get a 6600K and overclock it, or go with the 5820K. You can overclock a 6600K to get close to (or exceed) a stock 6700K's performance, and a 5820K would be better than both for multithreaded uses.
 

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So with all answers taken in, it looks like the i5 may be the better way to go. While the i7 would be nice, I think, after seeing the answers given, that I would be fine with the i5. I like the suggestion to go to 32GB DDR4, so I can used the money saved by staying with the i5 to purchase that.

One other question I would have would be this - AIO water cooling vs air cooling. I will be overclocking (6600k can generally reach 4.6GHz stable) so I just want to make sure that it is properly cooled. I was really considering water cooling, but I've been watching video after video, review after review, and have come to realize that until you get into custom loop, a high end air cooler will do just as good as most entry- to mid-level water cooling loops, especially AIOs. Can anyone speak on this? I know that the Cooler Master Hyper 212 is insanely popular, and was even suggested to me by a coworker. If thats the case, I could also save some money by going to the air cooler, as well as adding some extra fans to move air through the case,

Here are the parts I'm looking at -

MOBO - Gigabyte GA Z170X-G6
CPU - Intel i5 6600K
RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 2400
GPU - Sapphire NITRO R9 390 8GB DDR5 (OC Version)
PSU - EVGA 850w Plus Gold (Could I possibly get away with a 750w?)
SSD - Samsung 850 EVO 500GB
HDD - 2TB Seagate (I already own from my previous build.)
Case - Corsair Obsidian 750D (Thought about going with the 450D - It's large enough to fit the GPU)

I'm going for the red/black with white accents (colors of the MOBO)
 

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I replaced a Corsair H80 with a BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 and it was both much quieter and better performing, that or a Noctua nh-d15 will outperform the smaller closed-loop coolers. If you're looking to save money the Cryorig H7 outperforms the Hyper 212 and is about $35, but not every store sells them.

Your parts list looks good to me. Although you'll likely never actually use all that RAM, if you're looking to shave a bit off you could go with 16GB.