I5 3570K low physics score in 3DMARK, high CPU frequency in BIOS

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I just picked up an Nvidea gtx980 ti and naturally I wanted to test it in 3DMARK. Here's one of the results (they're all very similar):

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/10246041?

I noticed that the physics score was pretty low when compared to others with the same hardware so I started researching and eventually noticed that 3DMARK notes my stock core clock at 3800 MHz and my max turbo core clock at 3790 MHz, which seems weird because the stock core clock should be 3400 MHz and I think the max should be higher, not lower. All of this clock speed stuff is pretty foreign to me, since I haven't done any overclocking yet.

After doing a bit more online research I decided to go into the BIOS just to look around and see if anything seemed out of whack. Here I noticed that my CPU frequency does indeed read 3790ish MHz even though the clock speed is set to 3.40 GHz.

Here are some scores with the same hardware (locked processors just to ensure they're not overclocked), they have physics scores about 1000 higher than mine and different clock speeds (3400 MHz stock core clock and 4119 MHz max turbo clock) :
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5625994
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/6167474
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5183333

So I've got two issues really:

1. I'd like to figure out/fix whats going on with my processor speed.
2. I'd like to get my physics score in 3DMARK up in the 7000s where it probably should be.

Things I've done so far.

-Made sure my computer is in High Performance Power mode in Windows.
-Checked the Gigabyte website to see if my mobo drivers are up to date.
-Downloaded the Intel chipset driver utilty and ran it.
-Ensured that my memory is running at the correct speed.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and for any help you can provide.
 
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You would have to seriously overclock your CPU to do that!

But Why?

There is really no reason to go further as there are no games out there you cannot play with the graphics maxed out with what you have.

If I disable HT on my 3770K it performs the same as your 3570K so here are your projected PhysX possibilities at a 5ghz overclock.(9,562)

Unfortunately the CPU cooling it would take for you to even reach 5ghz, you could buy a 6700K, Motherboard, DDR4 Memory, for less money!

But you may be able to reach 7000s at around maybe 4.8Ghz?

With a properly configured custom water cooling loop, at least.

I hope that helps answer your...
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1. Your processor is working correctly at 3.4Ghz base clock and 3.8GHz turbo clock. It's running well.
2. The physics score for a quad core processor like yours is lower than those with 6 or 8 core processors like high end core i7 running on motherboards with X99 chipsets.

I recommend you to overclock your processor to 4.2GHz. It is in fact capable of reaching higher depending on the potential of the individual processor like a 3570k or 3770k, but it will require more tweaking and may cause instability above 4.6GHz. I have a Core i7 3770k in one of my systems, and it runs at 4.2GHz 24/7/365. 4.2GHz is a very safe frequency for overclocking, and I recommend it.

For the memory, it's not necessary to make it run at the highest possible clock it can do because that will make the system unstable and will not make the system run much faster based on reviews. It's better to keep it run at 1600 - 1833Mhz depending on the spec of your memory. My memory can run at 1600MHz and I let it run at that speed.

Your Geforce GTX 980 Ti however has a lot of potential for overclocking and overclocking graphics cards is what actually make games run smoother given an good enough processor that won't bottle neck the graphics card.
 
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Your score is excellent you have absolutely nothing to be concerned or complain about, the reason you see other CPUs with higher PhysX scores in FireStrike is simply because those CPUs with higher scores, have Hyper Threading capability, and your CPU does not.
 
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That's correct. My main system components include a highly overclocked GTX 980 and Core i7 3770k @4.2GHz. The physical score on my system isn't high either, but the actual performance surpasses those with the same graphics card but a faster processor.

Check out my latest 3DMark Firestrike score:
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/6418428

Using MSI Afterburner:
Power is adjusted to125%
Core is +233MHz
Memory is +382MHz
High Fan
Voltage is +20mv
 
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Here are a few of the scores from people with the same hardware (I searched i5 3570 non k version to ensure they weren't overclocked).

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5625994
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/6167474
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5183333

Those scores have physics scores around 7600, about 1000 higher than mine. In contrast, you can also find plenty of scores with the same hardware and a Physics score similar to mine. Any ideas why the same hardware would perform so differently? My CPU temps have never exceeded 51 Degrees C. I've started looking into overclocking and will hopefully get started in the near future. Until then, I'd like to optimize my hardware to it's full stock potential.

Also George, I wasn't implying that I was trying to get my RAM above 1600 MHz, only that I ensured that it was indeed running at 1600 MHz. Low physics scores have been written about a few times before and a common troubleshooting step is making sure the RAM is running at the correct speed, as opposed to 1333 MHz or something.

Regardless, I'm glad to hear my processor is running at the correct freqenzy. I would still like to improve my physics score though.



 
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You would have to seriously overclock your CPU to do that!

But Why?

There is really no reason to go further as there are no games out there you cannot play with the graphics maxed out with what you have.

If I disable HT on my 3770K it performs the same as your 3570K so here are your projected PhysX possibilities at a 5ghz overclock.(9,562)

Unfortunately the CPU cooling it would take for you to even reach 5ghz, you could buy a 6700K, Motherboard, DDR4 Memory, for less money!

But you may be able to reach 7000s at around maybe 4.8Ghz?

With a properly configured custom water cooling loop, at least.

I hope that helps answer your original questions.



 
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