Yeah.. another "critique my proposed build list" question

Kafka45

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ok.. I've built 3 machines, but am having this one done cause I'm getting old and lazy I guess. (and SSD's worry me...) anyway. Here's the list. I don't do a lot a gaming, but I want the option of doing it... I will render a lot of movies and burn same.....plus some video editing. Also it has to last at least 3yrs... probably 4. thanks for any advice. No SLI... and I want 4k but don't need a HUGE monitor.... 24in is all the space I have ... (such is life). This is under budget btw.

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Pq7K8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($374.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($128.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI X99A Raider ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($192.35 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($107.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($346.49 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 Fury 4GB Tri-X Video Card ($511.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Luxe ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($165.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) ($130.65 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Dell P2415Q 60Hz 23.8" Monitor ($399.99 @ Adorama)
Keyboard: Corsair STRAFE RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($159.99 @ Best Buy)
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2859.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-12 12:45 EST-0500

oh yeah... the REASON I go with Win 10 PRO is for the update options in that version. I can DELAY them.... in the home version you just get them and hope they don't screw up things.
I have more HD's I'll be installing... plus a BR burner.
thanks..

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Kafka45 - I see your build and it is very powerful for what you want to do. I've read that
scaling the display to 150% makes it look like a retina display. I agree about the six cores
for heavy duty stuff with rendering and editing, cores, cores, cores. I do see areas for a
little tweaking.

You worry about SSD's. I don't anymore. I built with SAS drives, enterprise level 15,000rpm
and SSD eats it for breakfast. M.2 eats the SATA SSD for breakfast. Go with a new M.2 for
your boot drive and a solid and speedier current gen spinner. It should beat our your current
storage drives by a goodly margin. I've got a range of speeds from 5 years alone. I think the
future for SSD's is as 4x and higher pci-e slot drives.

The upgrade to the 5930K...
That looks good, you could make a few minor sacrifices and save a lot of cash though.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($352.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B150M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($69.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Mushkin ECO2 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.70 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($328.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) ($130.65 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer K242HQKbmjdp 60Hz 23.6" Monitor ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K65 Compact Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Wired Gaming Keyboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Corsair M65 Wired Laser Mouse ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1741.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-12 15:15 EST-0500

Nothing wrong with your build but if you don't overclock, you game at 1440P instead of 4k and cope with slightly less storage you could get this build for over $1000 less. You shouldn't see much of a performance difference (if you game at 1440P instead of 4k).
 

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preciate the response,.. but I want the cpu cause the cores... I need this t hing to be somewhat time resistant. I know I can save $$... but want the pluses.... same for the case... SSD...MB..etc.
 

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no..no.. I wasn't clear I guess. Didn't mean time as how long it lasts....but more cores is that I'm trying to "future" proof it some. I know that's an impossible goal, but additional cores can't hurt. Technologically speaking, it will be almost obsolete as soon as its built.....
 

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Kafka45 - I am using the very same motherboard and processor that you are looking at purchasing. Both have strengths and both have weaknesses. The best way to "future proof" your build is to know exactly what you are buying before you buy it. My rig has all 3 PCIe gen 3 slots filled (2 Asus Strix GTX 970 video cards and 1 Intel 750 series 400Gb add-in-card) There is no room for any additional PCIe cards - period. One stated plus for this board is that it can be configured in an 8 - 8 - 8 configuration. I am not so sure that 3 video cards would actually fit if I removed the Intel add-in-card. Your choice of a quad channel ddr4 ram kit may also be a problem. Even after flashing the bios with the most current bios in M-Flash, my rig will not post with than more 2 sticks of ram. If you want 4K for any future gaming, the AMD based cards seem to do the best at the moment. But that said, your frame rates are not going to be spectacular! Which is why I chose the best 2K monitor that I could find (Acer XB270HU bprz) and paired it with 2 solid Asus video cards. The Acer monitor has G-Sync and runs at 144hz. It makes little sense to spend $500+ on a video card and then pair it with a 60hz monitor. The money you spend on your monitor should be roughly the same amount of money you spend on your video card(s). Most folks keep their monitors for a long time. The last time I purchased a monitor was 8 years ago. Even though I am only running 2 sticks of ram at the moment, I am pleased with my rig overall. I hope that you will be pleased with your rig as well. Good luck!
 

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Kafka45 - I see your build and it is very powerful for what you want to do. I've read that
scaling the display to 150% makes it look like a retina display. I agree about the six cores
for heavy duty stuff with rendering and editing, cores, cores, cores. I do see areas for a
little tweaking.

You worry about SSD's. I don't anymore. I built with SAS drives, enterprise level 15,000rpm
and SSD eats it for breakfast. M.2 eats the SATA SSD for breakfast. Go with a new M.2 for
your boot drive and a solid and speedier current gen spinner. It should beat our your current
storage drives by a goodly margin. I've got a range of speeds from 5 years alone. I think the
future for SSD's is as 4x and higher pci-e slot drives.

The upgrade to the 5930K gives you 40 pci-e lanes up from 28 with the 5820K, that's for the
future as you upgrade your storage speeds and replace your spinners one by one. The Asus
motherboard is just a more solid platform base for your future expansions. And overclocks
are fairly easy to obtain with the new EUFI bios.

I switched out the water for air because I've had a few water failures. Just age I think or maybe
I didn't get high enough on the food chain, the first warning you have is high temps. On air you
can change out the fan, what do you do with an all in one water mount? The Phantoo looks good
for a case I have a ThermalTake Core V71 with nice airflow and easy cable management.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($554.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.75 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus X99-DELUXE/U3.1 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($388.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($107.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung SM951 128GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($118.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 Fury 4GB Tri-X Video Card ($511.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Luxe ATX Full Tower Case ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) ($124.78 @ B&H)
Monitor: Dell P2415Q 60Hz 23.8" Monitor ($417.96 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair STRAFE RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($159.99 @ Best Buy)
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse ($49.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $2848.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-04 11:02 EST-0500
 
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