UPS is killing me

sandeephoro · Jan 16, 2016

My pc uses a 650 w power supply and a 22 inch led monitor. I use an asus 750 ti graphics card. I use a microtek 1kva ups. I also have an intex 800 va ups. Both of them turn off suddenly while gaming. They run just fine when not gaming and have decent backups but they turn off in the midst of gaming whenever there is a voltage fluctuation or power failure or no reason whatsoever. They make me wanna toss the whole table. Please for the safety of my family suggest me a good UPS which can handle my system and slight voltage fluctuations.

TbsToy · Jan 16, 2016

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0038ZTZ3W?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00

GhislainG · Jan 16, 2016

sandeephoro :

How old are the batteries? A 1000VA UPS should provide 600W with new batteries, but you definitely don't use a quality UPS.

sandeephoro · Jan 16, 2016

The 1000va ups is only 3 months old.

GhislainG · Jan 17, 2016

In theory your UPS is powerful enough. What make and model is your PSU and what components are in your PC? Does the UPS shutdown as soon as there's a power outage or can you game for a couple minutes? Where can you buy a better UPS like an APC Back-UPS RS 1100VA?

sandeephoro · Jan 19, 2016

Psu is antec 650 w. Intel i3 3220,8 gb ram corsair vengeance, nvidia 750 ti. As soon there is power outage ups turns off, sometimes slight voltage fluctuaution turn ups off

. Apc 1000 va ups is available to buy.

sandeephoro · Jan 19, 2016

Apc back ups rs 1100va looks good. Is it worth buying? People have complained about the noise it makes.

ko888 · Jan 19, 2016

Maybe the computer's power supply unit requires a pure sine wave UPS.

What's the brand and model of the power supply unit?

GhislainG · Jan 19, 2016

sandeephoro :

It makes noise when on battery (both of my Smart-UPS also do it).

sandeephoro · Jan 20, 2016

ko888 :

sandeephoro · Jan 20, 2016

Antec VP650P. UPS turns off instantly in case of power failure or voltage fluctuations or low voltage. I don't think the PSU is at fault here.

sandeephoro · Jan 20, 2016

GhislainG :

sandeephoro · Jan 20, 2016

So should i buy it? . Is it worth buying. I bought my MICROTEK TGE+ 1000 VA ups just 3 months ago. It ran fine for a while but starting giving me problems some while back.

GhislainG · Jan 20, 2016

It's up to you, but the APC is a better UPS. Other than your PC and monitor, is anything else connected to the UPS?

Chayan4400 · Jan 20, 2016

I helped out in a thread sometime back on this, and the OP bought a VP650P V2 in the end. Here is his reply:

Update:I have purchased an antec VP650P V2 unit with Active PF Correction.
Bad News:It does not work with my generic(microtek) simulated sine wave UPS, meaning the computer does not run on UPS backup.
GOOD NEWS:It works with my home inverter/UPS which is also a NON SINE WAVE UPS and stays ON even if the power goes OFF .
Reason:My generic UPS is of very low rating probably 450VA or 550VA at max and also more than 6 years old.
Conclusion:Most modern non sine wave UPS from a reputable brand such as APC with higher capacity(1.1kva or higher)
will be able to run any PSU with Active PF Correction, but there can be rare exceptions.
I guess this is the best solution but I can't pick mine as one.ko88'swer was right too that "A higher capacity stepped sine wave UPS (i.e. 1300VA) would probably handle a higher power draw without any problem".

Thread link: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2834399/sine-wave-ups-compatible-seasonic-series.html

If anyone, it's ko888 who can answer this for sure.

sandeephoro · Jan 20, 2016

GhislainG :

sandeephoro · Jan 20, 2016

no nothing else is connected to ups. occasionally i connect external HDD to watch movies or copy files, but they are disconnected while gaming. so is APC reliable. Its costlier than what i currently have but i can afford it if need be. So the imp question is IS APC good. I don't need to game during power failures, I just want my pc to stop turning off before i can save and quit.

sandeephoro · Jan 20, 2016

Chayan4400 :

I helped out in a thread sometime back on this, and the OP bought a VP650P V2 in the end. Here is his reply:

Update:I have purchased an antec VP650P V2 unit with Active PF Correction.
Bad News:It does not work with my generic(microtek) simulated sine wave UPS, meaning the computer does not run on UPS backup.
GOOD NEWS:It works with my home inverter/UPS which is also a NON SINE WAVE UPS and stays ON even if the power goes OFF .
Reason:My generic UPS is of very low rating probably 450VA or 550VA at max and also more than 6 years old.
Conclusion:Most modern non sine wave UPS from a reputable brand such as APC with higher capacity(1.1kva or higher)
will be able to run any PSU with Active PF Correction, but there can be rare exceptions.
I guess this is the best solution but I can't pick mine as one.ko88'swer was right too that "A higher capacity stepped sine wave UPS (i.e. 1300VA) would probably handle a higher power draw without any problem".

Thread link: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2834399/sine-wave-ups-compatible-seasonic-series.html

If anyone, it's ko888 who can answer this for sure.

sandeephoro · Jan 20, 2016

Yes i am in India. My microtek used to run fine and even gave me a good backup but 1 month from purchase and it started to give problems of turning off suddenly while gaming. The intex ups also does the same. I too think that they are not providing enough watts to run my pc smoothly. I am looking at APC Back-UPS RS 1100VA which gives 660 watts output. Is this good enough? Is APC good enough. its the costliest in the market here by around 2K. But i suppose i can afford it given its reliable. So it worth it?

sandeephoro · Jan 20, 2016

Chayan4400 :

I helped out in a thread sometime back on this, and the OP bought a VP650P V2 in the end. Here is his reply:

Update:I have purchased an antec VP650P V2 unit with Active PF Correction.
Bad News:It does not work with my generic(microtek) simulated sine wave UPS, meaning the computer does not run on UPS backup.
GOOD NEWS:It works with my home inverter/UPS which is also a NON SINE WAVE UPS and stays ON even if the power goes OFF .
Reason:My generic UPS is of very low rating probably 450VA or 550VA at max and also more than 6 years old.
Conclusion:Most modern non sine wave UPS from a reputable brand such as APC with higher capacity(1.1kva or higher)
will be able to run any PSU with Active PF Correction, but there can be rare exceptions.
I guess this is the best solution but I can't pick mine as one.ko88'swer was right too that "A higher capacity stepped sine wave UPS (i.e. 1300VA) would probably handle a higher power draw without any problem".

Thread link: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2834399/sine-wave-ups-compatible-seasonic-series.html

If anyone, it's ko888 who can answer this for sure.

sandeephoro · Jan 20, 2016

I don't want to game on during power failures. I just want a UPS which can give me enough time to save and quit. Sudden turn off just breaks the save file as well.

sandeephoro · Jan 20, 2016

http://www.amazon.in/APC-BR1100CI-IN-UPS/dp/B005Y8T0WW/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1453312454&sr=1-6&keywords=apc+ups+1000va. Will this Work?

Chayan4400 · Jan 20, 2016

sandeephoro :

It's a Stepped approximation to a sinewave, not a pure one, so you still may have issues. Any chance you can take your PC to the shop and test it out? Again, I'd wait till ko888 replies; he is well versed in UPS and PSU compatibility, much better than I am.

ko888 · Jan 20, 2016

The fact that the switch-over to battery backup mode fails indicates that the UPS is not compatible with the PSU's APFC circuit.

If the PSU has insufficient bulk capacitors in its APFC circuit then the PSU's hold-up time may not be long enough to prevent corruption of an HDD or SSD if the power interruption occurs while data is being written to the HDD or SSD.

You're better off getting a pure sine wave UPS because it eliminates any APFC compatibility problems. If you contact any of the PSU manufacturers they will recommend the use of a pure sine wave UPS because they don't want to deal with incompatibilities.

http://www.amazon.in/Microtek-UPS-SEBz-1100VA-Sinewave/dp/B00WAJW40S

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