Angel_8 :
Hi,
I'm a PhD student in EE and I want to build a desktop PC for applications like office, Matlab, ADS Agilent, Proteus, programming microcontrolers and occasionally HFSS or feko. I will normally need to have many pdf documents opened, firefox, word and matlab.
My buget is ~500€ and I thought about this possible configuration:
CPU:Intel Core I3-4170 3.7ghz Box (116€)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper Tx3 Evo Cpu (19.75€)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Ga-h81m-s2h (51.25€)
Memory: G.skill Ripjaws X Ddr3 1600 Pc3-12800 8gb 2x4gb CL9 (43.95€)
Storage: Samsung 850 Evo Ssd Series 250gb Sata3 (84.95€)
Case: Cooler Master Silencio 352 Usb 3.0 (63€)
Power: Enermax Maxpro 400w ( 43.95€)
Optical Drive: Asus Drw-24f1mt (13.95€)
Total: 436.8 € (Prices include taxes but not shipping)
Do I need a video card? I think that the integrated one will be enogh for my needs.
Another option is to change the i3-1470 for an i5-4460 o i5-4590 for 176€ and 196€ respectively but I don't know whether it'll worth or not.
Angel8,
Engineering uses such as Matlab and simulation are so calculation intensive, with a moderate cost, there are advantages to buying and upgrading a used, high quality workstation that was designed for that purpose and then upgrading it. Several months ago a friend asked that I suggest a system to run flight dynamics problems in Matlab (von Karman turbulence) and that system would have cost nearly $7,000. Matlab can be fully multi-threaded so there are extreme advantages to having as many cores as possible.
Last February I bought for $190 including shipping:
Dell Precision T5500 (2011) (
Original): Xeon E5620 quad core @ 2.4 / 2.6 GHz > 6GB DDR3 ECC Reg 1333 > Quadro FX 580 (512MB) > Dell PERC 6/i SAS /SATA controller > Seagate Cheetah 15K 146GB > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
[ Passmark system rating =
1479 / CPU = 4067 / 2D= 520 / 3D= 311 / Mem= 1473 / Disk= 1208]
These are beautifully made with server quality components that are designed for long sessions under full load. > Extremely reliable
This system was usable as received and I gradually upgraded it, purchasing used CPU's and also using several parts which were taken from my first system when I changed them:
CPU1: $230
CPU2: $170
CPU motherboard .memory/ fan riser: $75
Memory: 48GB: $180
PERC H310 RAID controller: $60 (converts disk from 3GB/s to 6Gb/s
GPU: on shelf from other upgrade
SSD: on shelf from other upgrade
HD: on shelf from other upgrade
And the results were very good:
Dell Precision T5500 (2011) (
Revised)> 2X Xeon X5680 six -core @ 3.33 / 3.6GHz, 48GB DDR3 ECC 1333 > Quadro K2200 (4GB ) > PERC H310 / Samsung 840 250GB / WD RE4 Enterprise 1TB > M-Audio 192 sound card > 875W PSU > Windows 7 Professional 64> HP 2711x (1920 X 1080)
[ Passmark system rating =
3844 / CPU = 15047 / 2D= 662 / 3D= 3500 / Mem= 1785 / Disk= 2649] (12.30.15)
That's therefore a 12 core / 24 thread system running at 3.33 /3.6GHz with 48GB of RAM, a 250GB SSD and 1TB enterprise level HD and a very good 3D performance, spending about $900 with about $400 in other parts I already had.
My current Project:
Purchased for $53 + 25 shipping:
Dell Precision T3500 (2011) (
Original) > Xeon four-core@ 2.8 / 3.06GHz > 4GB DDR3-1333 ECC (2X 2GB) > GeForce 9800 GT > 500 GB
[ Passmark system rating =
1962, CPU = 4482 / 2D= 609/ 3D=805 / Mem= 1408 / Disk=972]
CPU: $60
RAM: $43
GPU: on shelf from other upgrade
PERC 6/i RAID controller: on shelf from other upgrade (was in the T5500 when I bought it
HD's: on shelf from other upgrade
Total= $185 or with the value of used parts about $350
Precision T3500 (2011) (
Rev 2) Xeon X5677 4-core @ 3.47 /3.73GHz > 12GB (6X 2GB) DDR3-1333 ECC > Quadro 4000 (2GB) > PERC 6/i +Seagate ST3300657SS + WD Black 500GB > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
[Passmark system rating =
2751, CPU = 7236 / 2D= 658 / 3D=2020 / Mem= 1875 / Disk=1221]
For example you could buy something like:
COMPUTER WORKSTATION DELL PRECISION T5500 QUAD XEON 2.0GHZ 6GB 320G QUADRO 580 sold for 157,00 EUR + 35,00 EUR shipping (Italia)
http://www.ebay.es/itm/COMPUTER-WORKSTATION-DELL-PRECISION-T5500-QUAD-XEON-2-0GHZ-6GB-320G-QUADRO-580-/201478390748?hash=item2ee90c43dc:g:ET0AAOSwwE5WV2ae
The CPU is a bit slow but that system is not far from being usable. There are many excellent LGA1366 CPU's up to the Xeon X5690 6-core @ 3.47 /3.73GHz. Buy a strong 6-core CPU , 3X 8GB of PC3-10600R RAM (DDR3-1333 ECC Registered) and a good SSD- Samsung 850 Evo 250GB. Later, add a 6GB/s RAID controller, a second CPU and more RAM.
The advantage to this idea is to have a system up and running while it is improved- only apart a couple of hours at the most. Also, as it can have two 6-core CPU's and 92GB of RAM, the potential can be very high.
Cheers,
BambiBoom
HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 six-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz > 32GB DDR3 ECC 1866 RAM > Quadro K4200 (4GB) > Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) > Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> Logitech z2300 > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440) > Windows 7 Professional 64 >
[ Passmark Rating = 5064 > CPU= 13989 / 2D= 819 / 3D= 4596 / Mem= 2772 / Disk= 4555] [Cinebench R15 > CPU = 1014 OpenGL= 126.59 FPS] 7.8.15