Do-all System Build for Photoshop, Web Design, CAD and light gaming?

ByTheKOZ

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I've been running several computers to do my work. Lost all of them to water damage a few weeks back. Insurance check on its way. Instead of multiple PCs, I want just one now. Used to build computers before I grew weary of the tinkering and got machines with warranties. I must be hard headed because I want to build one again..and I'm kinda excited by all the possibilities and options nowadays (got my 1st PC in the mid 80s).

Budget is $3.5k - I know I could get 2 for this amount, but I want to have a little fun and maybe even future-proof myself for a little while. Last workstation I had lasted me 8 years. Hoping for at least 3 maybe 5 on this one.

Here are the programs I use in priority of need (highest to lowest):

Photoshop/Illustrator - for illustration, painting, moderate photo-editing; use a lot
Rhino5 (CAD/CAM) - simple models, no rendering; use a lot
Adobe Muse - large websites; seems to need a lot of RAM; use moderately
Revit (CAD, BIM) - moderate complexity, no rendering; infrequent use
SketchUp Pro - prototyping, no rendering; infrequent use
Multiple browsers open - for testing, running apps, etc.
Office stuff - Google apps, Excel, etc.
ITunes music
Gaming - just getting interested, only occasional time to game.


Here's my current build list:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TL4VMp

i7-6700K
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Asus Z170-A
g.skill Ripjaws V 4x8GB DDR4-3200
Samsung 850 EVO 512 GB SSD
AMD FirePro W7100
Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow
EVGA 750W PSU
BenQ BL3201PH (best 10-bit color that does CAD well)


I've gone back and forth on the GPU decision. Decided I didn't do heavy enough CAD to warrant a Quadro K2200, yet I do need high-precision modeling frequently enough that I did not want a GTX card. I'm hoping the higher end AMD FirePro will be a better all-around GPU choice for this system.

What do you think about this as a build?





 
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Ack, PCPartPicker is down, I can't view your build. Wanted to see which M.2 drive you picked, at your price point you should be looking at an x4 PCIe SSD, there are SATA M.2 SSD's on the market that will not be nearly as good. More expensive but far superior performance. I suspect that you are okay based on your smiley face.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/02/understanding-m-2-the-interface-that-will-speed-up-your-next-ssd/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2977024/storage/m2-ssd-roundup-tiny-drives-deliver-huge-performance.html
The question of which type of video card to use is an interesting one. Consumer cards like the GTX 980 Ti have been touted as working well with video editing applications and of course they kill in gaming. But strangely enough I found a link where the opposite was asked and we have an answer.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/workstation-graphics-card-gaming,3425-15.html

See the build below, I based it off another build I did for video editing.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XCpkVn
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XCpkVn/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2650 V3 2.3GHz 10-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($1059.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($184.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Reactor 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Reactor 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Reactor 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Reactor 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: AMD FirePro W7000 4GB Video Card ($618.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($14.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 OEM (64-bit) ($142.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $3601.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-19 13:46 EST-0500
 

ByTheKOZ

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I do like Xeon processors - one of my PCs was a Dell Workstation with Dual CPUs. I've found, though, that nearly all of what I do is single-threaded work and I don't need a 2nd CPU. Additionally, most of my software requirement sheets state that CPU speed is key, so I'm most interested in the i7-6700K or i7-4790K processors since they run at 4GHz and can even be overclocked. Since I don't do rendering, I don't really need a ton of SSD hard drive space.
 

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Cool article. I did a ton of reading and researching and still didn't come across this one before. That said, it does seem to state that the AMD7xxx FirePro series would be able to handle basic gaming...and better than the Quadro cards.

 

ByTheKOZ

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Nearly all are CPU first, GPU second.

 

ByTheKOZ

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I did some more reading and research and have changed my build. It would appear that the AMD FirePro card is overkill for the CAD that I am doing. So, to err on the side of Photoshop and gaming, I'm going with the GTX 980 - which apparently does work well with the software I am using.

I also made some other changes:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/J6WR23

Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory
Samsung 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card
Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition ATX Full Tower Case
Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
BenQ BL3200PT 60Hz 32.0" Monitor


Looking at multiple sources for testing, running, benchmarking, future-proofing....it just makes more sense to me to go with a Z170 mobo and the best processor for that is the i7-6700K right now. Also gives me USB3.1 and DDR4. I did some virtual benchmarks against a similarly built system with a i7-5930K, i7-5820K and i5-6600K. While solid builds, they don't take best advantage of what I need most which is CPU speed for single-threaded performance.

Since I no longer am trying to run a 4k card, I downgraded my display to the 2K version to save some money. I won't be able to take advantage of it's 10-bit/channel color with the GTX 980, but it should still run great for 1080p and 1440.

I added the M.2 256GB SSD just for Win10, with the 500GB SSD for programs and the 3TB 7200rpm for Storage. Funny how the smallest drive is the most expensive...largest, the cheapest. :D

Total is roughly $2600 so I'm still under budget with a little room for peripherals.


I've noticed that there aren't a lot of Workstation/Gaming Rig builds that are written up, so if all goes well with this one, I'm hoping to do a full write-up on it. It's certainly not my first pony ride...I've learned a bunch along the way. I just think that perhaps there is a lot of misunderstanding about workstation graphics needs and certainly there are lots of other people out there who are gaming with systems that also do CAD, Photoshop, etc.

With any luck I'll have the components here with a week or so and can get started. Any last minute "red flags"?

Thanks for any/all help!
 
Ack, PCPartPicker is down, I can't view your build. Wanted to see which M.2 drive you picked, at your price point you should be looking at an x4 PCIe SSD, there are SATA M.2 SSD's on the market that will not be nearly as good. More expensive but far superior performance. I suspect that you are okay based on your smiley face.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/02/understanding-m-2-the-interface-that-will-speed-up-your-next-ssd/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2977024/storage/m2-ssd-roundup-tiny-drives-deliver-huge-performance.html
 
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ByTheKOZ

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m.2 is completely new to me. I am looking at the Samsung 950 Pro. Am I going to get the gains I am thinking of?
I want to run OS as well as progs all on the m.2 SSD - will that work well? Or better to have a separate SSD? There is room in my budget for the 512gb version actually.

Can you point me to a good x4 PCIe SSD?
I read that the 950 Pro was the best right now.
 
The SM951 (the one you picked) seems to be the favourite of most reviewers out there right now. As for gains, look at the PCWorld article, PCIe smokes the SATA M.2's out of the water. And your mobo is configured for it. I would run anything that makes frequent calls of the M.2 so OS and programs. The 512GB is well reviewed. I you wanted to go up to 1TB Tom's is recommending the Intel 750 but that is by default, nothing else on the market I know of.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/best-m-2-ssds_round-up_Page-1

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-recommendation-benchmark,3269.html