Can't choose between GPU and CPU

Niwaun

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Hi I'm looking to upgrade from a i7 3770 and a GTX 780 ti.
But I don't quite know to what yet, my options are the obvious 6700K and 980ti.
The thing is with Pascal coming out is it worth waiting for that instead and I have considered moving to a 6 core processor, but don't know if I need it.
 
i7 3770 is still a beast. Upgrading from that processor won't give you much benefit for the ton of money you are spending. 6 cores aren't useful in gaming so if you don't have any purpose for it, you don't need it.

GTX 780 Ti ==> 980 Ti will be an upgrade though but 780 Ti is still a beast of a card so I would wait for Pascal.
 
6 core is not very useful for gaming which I presume you are most interested in.
Few games can use more than 2-3 threads.

Here is my stock approach to that perennial question:

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To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run these two tests:

a) Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

You should also experiment with removing one core. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option. set the number of processors to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many cores.

If your FPS drops significantly, it is an indicator that your cpu is the limiting factor, and a cpu upgrade is in order.

It is possible that both tests are positive, indicating that you have a well balanced system, and both cpu and gpu need to be upgraded to get better gaming FPS.
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On the graphics side, the GTX980ti is as good as it gets for gaming at less than 4k. It is decent at 4k but for shooters, you might want sli.
Pascal has questions. When and how strong and at what price? What is the amd response.
Best guess is 3Q 2016.

On the cpu side, a i5-6600K with a decent overclock will be as good as it gets. The extra hyperthreads of the i7 will go largely unused.
 

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Yeah I need a i7 cause I do multitask quite a bit, the only question is if I would be more future proof with a 6 core.
And for the 980 ti I actually bought two which both didn't work (either in my setup or just didn't work) and that is why I consider a CPU upgrade too
 
A i7-5930K has a passmark rating of 13629 and a single thread rating of 2083.
A I7-6700K has a rating of 11012 and a single thread rating of 2234.
In general, games depend on the performance of a single master core, so for gaming, the 6700K would be a bit better.
On the other hand, if you have an app that can keep all 12 threads busy, then the 5930K will be a bit better,

To my mind, it is easier to tolerate a slightly longer batch run time than it is to have any stutters because of a slower cpu thread.

Really, you can't go wrong with either.

One plus of the 5930K approach is that you can do triple sli with the added pcie capability.

I discount that a bit because past two gpu, you get diminishing returns. And... like a future upgrade will be to pascal or the amd response anyway.

A plus for the skylake build is the support of the upgraded kaby lake processors due out this year.
There is NO info out on what the performance will be.
 

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I'm kinda at the same conclusion about the GPU.

I was looking at the 5820K or the new 6850K coming out, but again I mostly just game so don't really see any justification for going 6 core other than it might be good in the future